Stainless Steel brake lines for the 4Runner

[bulldog]

I fitted some stainless steel lines to the 4Runner. I just did a quick write up of it as well.
http://www.toyota120.com/html/stainless_steel_brake_lines.html

Overall the brakes are a little firmer and feels bit better to me. I tested the ATRAC a few times and it seems to bite a bit better, but more testing should be in order first.

[my034runner]

Should I extend with the new suspension we're adding tomorrow? :devil:

[bulldog]

Should I extend with the new suspension we're adding tomorrow? :devil:
I dont think it is needed with the Revtek setup you have in the rear. I just decided as it was on my todo mod list for the 4R to I just do it. It is however the most expensive and time consuming way of doing it, but the best IMHO. However the bracket extensions that Revtek supplies is supposed to work with their shocks. I made my own bracket extension for the OME suspension (see OME thread), which in the end turned out it was not needed.

[my034runner]

Remember though, I'm getting you know what made @CS.com. Still no change needed when I get those in a few weeks? :confused:
:devil:

[bulldog]

Remember though, I'm getting you know what made @CS.com. Still no change needed when I get those in a few weeks? :confused:
:devil:
Nope the Revtek shocks is what limits your downtravel and thus brake line requiredments. The Revtek bracket extension was designed with this in mind. SO no need to change unloess you want to. Other stuff does not factor into it.

[my034runner]

Cool. So, unless I can find a longer travel shock for the rear, I can leave it. But, you know I'll probably look for a better longer rear shock before long. :guns:
:devil:

[bulldog]

Cool. So, unless I can find a longer travel shock for the rear, I can leave it. But, you know I'll probably look for a better longer rear shock before long. :guns:
:devil:
hehehe
Yeah there are plenty of very good long travel shocks out there. Only problem is you will have to change the frame adn possibly the axle mountings to use those type of shocks since most are eye/eye not stud/eye. :p But that is a completely different discussion.

[my034runner]

I've probably spent too much money as it is. Wait and spend more $ later.
:devil:

[my034runner]

I fitted some stainless steel lines to the 4Runner. I just did a quick write up of it as well.
http://www.toyota120.com/html/stainless_steel_brake_lines.html

Overall the brakes are a little firmer and feels bit better to me. I tested the ATRAC a few times and it seems to bite a bit better, but more testing should be in order first.


Staying on this topic though, your 4Runner is an '03 as well, right? My034runner seems to have always had a soft brake pedal. Another words, it seems like I have to push the pedal down more before I get the braking I want. I drive a lot of 4Runners and Toyota's in general, and it always seems to me that their braking is more firm and seems to have better braking effect at the top of the brake pedal than my034runner.
You said that your brakes now seem firmer and better to you now. Is that because of the Stainless brake lines that you installed, or something else that you did?
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[bulldog]

The lines definitely helped a lot and also the fact that I flushed the system afterwards. The brakes are still not as sharp as the GX's brakes.

I think part of my problem is that my rotors got glazed a bit over time. The base cause of this has been mudding and the mud filling up the vents in the rotors. I have tried to remove it with no luck. After my trip to the Sierras in 2004 and some spirited driving in the mountain passes the brakes were never the same. I replaced the pads with no luck and the system was flushe last year as well.

So I will probably replace my rotors and pads this year if Brembo will make a front rotor. I might even consider other drilled/slotted rotors and just avoid mud. Replacing the rotors and new sets of Toyota pads might be the answer. But the lines and flush has defintely perked it up quite a bit, the pedal feels great now the brakes just don't bite as well as the GX.

However keep in mind the GX has excellent brakes and sometimes bites a bit too much to early. So far I love the feel with the SS lines, it is not nearly a hard wooden pedal feel at all, and the brakes work really well.

[my034runner]

Are your rotors still OEM or aftermarket. I still have OEM rotors but just had them turned and new pads added, as well as bled. And even then, I still seem to have a soft pedal. It pisses me off, and my buddy Brett (Master Tech) said that that is normal for the '03. Something about the Master cylinder being different than other years. Doe's that sound right?
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[bulldog]

My rotors and pads are still OEM. I repalced the pads at 30K, and they still had 60% left on the front and 80% on the back. Now after aniother 20K or so they still have like 70-80% left on both ends.

I don't know about the master cylinder theory, could be that they calibrated it differently for later years. The 05 GX is certainly a huge improvement, but then it has the bigger front rotors too.

All I know is that I'm much happier after I put in the SS lines. So maybe putting the SS lines can cause a very hard pedal on later years dunno.