Shrockworks Front Bumper discussion

[my034runner]

Right Indeed!
Sort of a ghost town these days.
Lots of dead and dying palm trees.

One funny thing about the photo - the truck is totally photo shopped, but those palm trees on the right are not at all... and they look so fake!

-Mike


Yes!!!!! What did I win?! :wavey:

I know that those Palm trees are there, I've seen them three years in a row.
Is you 4Runner there, or did you chop that into the photo?? :confused:

[K6UK]

My 4Runner is there... I just upgraded it with photoshop.
Took a trip to Arizona, and stopped to shoot a few photos.

-Mike

[my034runner]

My 4Runner is there... I just upgraded it with photoshop.
Took a trip to Arizona, and stopped to shoot a few photos.

-Mike


Cool, we usually stop there to pee going to and from TDS!
Again, sorry, off topic again.

[AlexJet]

http://mikemillar.smugmug.com/photos/86570067-M.jpg

:shocked: Looks amazing...

[AlexJet]

Give me you personal comments/thought/ideas guys. I need to commit to the specifics asap.

I'd go with central loop. Looks more proportional for daily driver. For Off-Roading three loops better, but for mostly Daily Driving and Expeditions single loop is looks better. My personal opinion, as you asked. I'm personally, going with central loop only.

[jacal]

I posted this to t4r.org:
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18705&highlight=approach+angle

If you picture a triangle, you can get a 'result'. You know 1 angle is 90'...you know 2/3 lengths of the sides, and away you go! ( I know I wish I paid better attention ). A brief google brings up a better explanation:
http://id.mind.net/~zona/mmts/trigonometryRealms/introduction/rightTriangle/trigRightTriangle.html


Relevant portion of previous post:
Ok, if I recall high school, sin cos and tan were not my friends...however, I think approach and departure angles could be calculated with a lift kit. My measurements were crude...rear hitch, and front center of bumper where it starts to "curve". For lengths, I just stuck the tape measure under the tire w/o forcing it:

Post Spacer measurements:
Front driver 36 ½
Front Pass 36 ¾
Rear D/P 37 ¾

Rear Diff 9 ¾
Front Center 11 ½

Rear Hitch 17 ¼
Rear tire tread to rear hitch 37 ¼
Angle Departure: 24.85 (stock 24)

Front tire to front bumper 29
Front bumper height 21 ½
Angle Approach: 36.5 (stock 30)

I may have completely screwed up those approaches and departures do they make any sense?

[bulldog]

That is the problem, measuring accurately and correctly. After that the math is simple :D

[K6UK]

Photoshop is addicting

http://mikemillar.smugmug.com/photos/87260416-L.jpg

-Mike

[expat]

Hahaha, that's great Mike.

[my034runner]

Photoshop is addicting

http://mikemillar.smugmug.com/photos/86970374-M.jpg

-Mike


You Hollywood types have too much time on your hands. Oh yeah, and you're all just a little different, aren't you?! :roflmao: :roflmao: :banana: :cow: :rotflmao: :rockon:

Looks cool though! :bigok:

[bulldog]

:spank: OK enough photoshops, next pictures better be real bumpers on the trucks :spank:
:jester: :jester: :jester:

The 4R looks good in the chop. But I want the real thing now.

[my034runner]

:spank: OK enough photoshops, next pictures better be real bumpers on the trucks :spank:
:jester: :jester: :jester:

The 4R looks good in the chop. But I want the real thing now.



:iagree :iagree :banana:

[K6UK]

Yeah, I'm with you!
Can't wait to see the real thing!


-Mike

[PanteraLKN]

I'll have lighting and winch pricing posted early next week. I had to get the 9500 winch w/ synth rope and detached solenoid specially made for us, but Ramsey has agreed to do it. I'm supposed to have pricing on it Monday.


ok - its way past monday --any more news?

[Cruiserhead]

Hey guys, I was looking at the prototype pics and a few observations:

--the approach angle is really great.

--winch mounting- again, the short overhang lets the winch be tucked in. keeping the weight as close to the axle is good. Esp. weight hanging off the front. It's also a clean look w/ just a nice Hawse on the front- w/ a black one, you will be really stealthy.

-- recovery points up high - again, pay dividends in clearance & easy access

-- light mounting- recessed is ok, I like flush mounting but that's JMO. ARB does the same thing w/ deep recesses but even more so.

--since this is a made-to-order bumper, you might as well take advantage of it; ie, additional mounting tabs welded to the hoops, hidden mounting points for XX accessory, etc

[97kurt]

Does the bumper mount to the endcaps of the 4runner like the previous gens and tacomas? If so you guys might want to look at this.
http://www.wattora.com/mods/endcap/

If it does not, delete this post.

[ToyFamily]

it's got more attachment points that just the front frame end...6 bolts each side....to mount the bracket.....pics as weather permits, the bumper is on.

Nick

[bulldog]

it's got more attachment points that just the front frame end...6 bolts each side....to mount the bracket.....pics as weather permits, the bumper is on.

Nick
Good stuff, don't want to loose the front bumper during recovery or winching :D

So I'll have mine next week??? :jester: J/K

Please let us know as the time gets closer to actual shipping of the first batch, so we can confirm final arrangements and accesories.

[my034runner]

it's got more attachment points that just the front frame end...6 bolts each side....to mount the bracket.....pics as weather permits, the bumper is on.

Nick


Nick, this might be a stupid question, but here it goes. What the hell does the weather have to do with taking some pictures? :confused: :confused: Like I said, might be a stupid question, but I don't think so, and here's why.
1: you have a shop, I'm sure that there might be just enough room to squeeze at least the front end of the 4Runner inside to shoot a photo out of the rain.

2: your camera more than likely has a flash on it, so you don't need the sun for light.

Now, it might not be up to your artistic standards, but I think that we can live without a perfect portrait of a bumper.

Would you please send us something? :jester: :moon:

[ToyFamily]

Jim is very perticular about the pics and it's been pooring rain......if it doesn't matter and you want to see a pic of the bumper then look back a few pages, it's exactly like that but black :flipoff:

Nick

[Tucson T4R]

Nick, this might be a stupid question, but here it goes. What the hell does the weather have to do with taking some pictures? :confused: :confused: Like I said, might be a stupid question, but I don't think so, and here's why.
1: you have a shop, I'm sure that there might be just enough room to squeeze at least the front end of the 4Runner inside to shoot a photo out of the rain.

2: your camera more than likely has a flash on it, so you don't need the sun for light.

Now, it might not be up to your artistic standards, but I think that we can live without a perfect portrait of a bumper.

Would you please send us something? :jester: :moon:



:shout: :eek: If you keep ticking these guys off, the bumper they send you will be made from aluminium foil and rubbed with black crayon. :moon:

[Jared]

:shout: :eek: If you keep ticking these guys off, the bumper they send you will be made from aluminium foil and rubbed with black crayon. :moon:

Now that **** would be funny. Just as a joke, they should send all you bugging fellas a big sheet of cardboard with "Bend Here" and "Staple Here" instructions to make your own aftermarket bumper. Then send you your real one a couple days later.

I know I'd laugh my ass off.

[Joel]

..if it doesn't matter and you want to see a pic of the bumper then look back a few pages, it's exactly like that but black :flipoff:

:roflmao: :roflmao: :flip2:

[PanteraLKN]

you know -- i'm being very patient - and appreciate all the humor

one thing to note -- my credit card was charged for the full price of the bumper on May 23rd -- i count that as 13 weeks and to be honest -- if i was only charged a deposit - i would not be in such a rush -- its the full price portion that has me slightly irritated

lets get this thing completed and in our hands

please?

[my034runner]

:shout: :eek: If you keep ticking these guys off, the bumper they send you will be made from aluminium foil and rubbed with black crayon. :moon:


As long as it works!! :flipoff: :jester:

[my034runner]

Now that **** would be funny. Just as a joke, they should send all you bugging fellas a big sheet of cardboard with "Bend Here" and "Staple Here" instructions to make your own aftermarket bumper. Then send you your real one a couple days later.

I know I'd laugh my ass off.



:moon: :flipoff: :flipoff: :flip2: :flip2: :xnuts: :roflmao:

[my034runner]

you know -- i'm being very patient - and appreciate all the humor

one thing to note -- my credit card was charged for the full price of the bumper on May 23rd -- i count that as 13 weeks and to be honest -- if i was only charged a deposit - i would not be in such a rush -- its the full price portion that has me slightly irritated

lets get this thing completed and in our hands

please?



:iagree :iagree :iagree :shout:

[my034runner]

Jim is very particular about the pics and it's been pouring rain......if it doesn't matter and you want to see a pic of the bumper then look back a few pages, it's exactly like that but black :flipoff:

Nick


I already saw that. Please show us the final powder coated bumper! Again, don't need a portrait, just pull it in, put the flash on and take a generic picture for us. Inquiring minds want to know! :jester: :D
Thanks

[Jared]

:moon: :flipoff: :flipoff: :flip2: :flip2: :xnuts: :roflmao:


I think you missed a few emoticons... you are slipping!

[my034runner]

I think you missed a few emoticons... you are slipping!


Hey, quit capping on my choice of emoticons, and get you ass up to Big Bear next weekend with us!!!!!! :D

Me and Mark (Expat) and Carl (channing) are going, so put some gas in your tank, get your camping stuff and come on up, don't be weak! :moon: :jester:

[shrockworks]

OK, here's a couple. I'm gonna start a new thread with more.

http://www.shrockworks.com/Forum_Images/4runner-gen4-fb14.jpg

http://www.shrockworks.com/Forum_Images/4runner-gen4-fb15.jpg

http://www.shrockworks.com/Forum_Images/4runner-gen4-fb17.jpg

http://www.shrockworks.com/Forum_Images/4runner-gen4-fb16.jpg

[Ryanmb21]

That looks fre'gin sic :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

[Tucson T4R]

:bow: Looks great! Throw a winch in that one and I'll take it! Nice job.

[my034runner]

Nice!!! :guns: :rockon:

I NEED MINE (me wishing!) IN TIME TO SHOW IT OFF AT TTORA BIG BEAR TRIP NEXT WEEK!!!!!! IF I HAD IT ON (me still wishing, this time upon a star), I CAN SELL MORE OF THEM FOR YOU!!! I'LL BE WHEELING WITH ALL TOYOTA'S NEXT WEEKEND, IS IT ON IT'S WAY YET??? :jester: :D :thrasher: :wavey:

[Mikestang]

Looks really slick. My check came today, but it's too late to call. I'll be placing my order Monday, woot!

[r0cky]

Getting excited!

[MnRunr]

:chowtime:

That thing looks fantastic.

[ksneubec]

Looks great! A couple of questions:

Should we contact Shrockworks and give you shipping locations, as well as which add-ons we want (hoops, etc.)?

Is it possible to buy the winch/PIAA lights directly from you?

[expat]

Nice!!! :guns: :rockon:

I NEED MINE IN TIME TO SHOW IT OFF AT TTORA BIG BEAR TRIP NEXT WEEK!!!!!! IF I HAVE IT ON, I CAN SELL MORE OF THEM FOR YOU!!! I'LL BE WHEELING WITH ALL TOYOTA'S NEXT WEEKEND, IS IT ON IT'S WAY YET??? :confused:

Robert, why are you confused (emoticon) about the delivery date? They said 4 weeks from 08/02/06 (check back thoriugh this thread - I think about 3 pages back) You still have a few weeks to wait. Don't piss them off by asking every week when are they coming. If they come earlier it will be a bonus and you can celebrate but honestly its getting a bit annoying asking every week for something else photos, delivery whatever.

Personally I think if you really need something from them at this stage ring them.

[expat]

Should we contact Shrockworks and give you shipping locations, as well as which add-ons we want (hoops, etc.)?


I would say definitely. Do asap.

[r0cky]

Robert, why are you confused (emoticon) about the delivery date? They said 4 weeks from 08/02/06 (check back thoriugh this thread - I think about 3 pages back) You still have a few weeks to wait. Don't piss them off by asking every week when are they coming. If they come earlier it will be a bonus and you can celebrate but honestly its getting a bit annoying asking every week for something else photos, delivery whatever.

Personally I think if you really need something from them at this stage ring them.

I thought maybe he was trying to be funny about needing the bumper in time to show it off there ... ?

[expat]

I thought maybe he was trying to be funny about needing the bumper in time to show it off there ... ?

Well I respect your comment but personally I don't think it reads that way. It's in bold type, the emoticon is the frustrated one, and the text makes comment about wanting it for Big Bear which is in less than a week. They have already said when it will be ready hopefully. Just my op.

[my034runner]

Robert, why are you confused (emoticon) about the delivery date? They said 4 weeks from 08/02/06 (check back through this thread - I think about 3 pages back) You still have a few weeks to wait. Don't piss them off by asking every week when are they coming. If they come earlier it will be a bonus and you can celebrate but honestly its getting a bit annoying asking every week for something else photos, delivery whatever.

Personally I think if you really need something from them at this stage ring them.



Hey, a guy can wish, can't he??!! :flipoff: :guns:

[my034runner]

Well I respect your comment but personally I don't think it reads that way. It's in bold type, the emoticon is the frustrated one, and the text makes comment about wanting it for Big Bear which is in less than a week. They have already said when it will be ready hopefully. Just my op.



Calm down Mark, she's correct!!!!!!!! It was wishful hoping, because yes, it would have been cool to show off to the other TTORA folks! :bigok: :banana:
I must have chosen the wrong smiley, sorry. :beer:

[ToyFamily]

here's a close up pic of some powdercoat and welds while we are all waiting....you do like the pics :bigok: Oh and we have SHROCKWORKS engraved fairleads coming....available in Aluminum and Anodized BLACK.....the latest pics have an Aluminum one mounted...

http://www.shrockworks.com/Forum_Images/2005frontierfront06.jpg


Nick

[Roams001]

So that's where my stack of dimes went...beautiful welding! :welder:

[my034runner]

Nick and Jim, This bumper looks sick!!!!! :bow: :bow: :rockon:
:devil:












I'll take the black anodized fairlead, and the PIAA lights.

[bulldog]

Nick, the detail on the bumper looks amazing. Can you please let us know when and how we need to finalize details for the bumpers with you guys? Details like options, accesories (lights, winches, etc), shipping.

Can't wait to get mine.

[ToyFamily]

Jim was planning on calling each of you, but if you want you can call. the lights are $199 and he'll hopefully have winch prices up today.

Nick

[expat]

You guys do outstanding work. Man that welding looks beautiful. Thank you.

[Mikestang]

Wow, that is a piece of art. Great work!

[Jared]

Hey, quit capping on my choice of emoticons, and get you ass up to Big Bear next weekend with us!!!!!! :D

Me and Mark (Expat) and Carl (channing) are going, so put some gas in your tank, get your camping stuff and come on up, don't be weak! :moon: :jester:

<offtopic>
I actually have a Triathlon that weekend, so I won't be making it up there. I wish I could, I know a few hours into my race I'll be thinking, "you idiot, you should've gone offroading."
</offtopic>

Shrockworks,
Beautiful bumper, and nice welds. I usually don't like plate bumpers, but you guys made me a believer. Very very nice. I like that you guys have a real attention to detail. Something that a lot of aftermarket shops don't have.

[my034runner]

<offtopic>
I actually have a Triathlon that weekend, so I won't be making it up there. I wish I could, I know a few hours into my race I'll be thinking, "you idiot, you should've gone offroading."
</offtopic>

Shrockworks,
Beautiful bumper, and nice welds. I usually don't like plate bumpers, but you guys made me a believer. Very very nice. I like that you guys have a real attention to detail. Something that a lot of aftermarket shops don't have.



Yes, very beautiful, you're jealous now, aren't you Jared?! :poke:

[Joel]

Robert, have you heard of PM's? :flipoff:

[JP4Crawler]

That close up sold me!! Very, very impressive. Just have to sell my house & I'm in. I'm tempted to put it on a CC.

Jason

[shrockworks]

....how we need to finalize details for the bumpers with you guys? Details like options, accesories (lights, winches, etc), shipping.



Please call. If you dont, I will call you, but if you get a chance just call me so we dont play phone tag.

[expat]

Probably another one of my dumb questions, but would it be valuable to list (consolidate) all the options on either this thread, the access. thread, or another brand new thread? I wonder if everyone knows what options are available and what others are considering or have negotiated.

For instance...

Powdercoating color
No hoop
Center hoop
Center hoop and side hoops
Antenna mounts (either tabs welded to hoop or hole/s drilled into top of flat bar)
Holes for mounting driving lights on top of bar
Tie down for fluffy dice (are you paying attention!)
Additional tow hooks?
Winches, ropes, hawse, remotes, driving/fog lights etc (posted in other thread)

Do you get what I mean? Have I left anything out? Is anyoner ordering anything else outside of these items that might be of use to others? Does or has Shrockworks offer/ed any other custom fab work or accessories on other vehicles that we might use on our bullbars?

[r0cky]

Probably another one of my dumb questions, but would it be valuable to list (consolidate) all the options on either this thread, the access. thread, or another brand new thread? I wonder if everyone knows what options are available and what others are considering or have negotiated.

For instance...

Powdercoating color
No hoop
Center hoop
Center hoop and side hoops
Antenna mounts (either tabs welded to hoop or hole/s drilled into top of flat bar)
Holes for mounting driving lights on top of bar
Tie down for fluffy dice (are you paying attention!)
Additional tow hooks?
Winches, ropes, hawse, remotes, driving/fog lights etc (posted in other thread)

Do you get what I mean? Have I left anything out? Is anyoner ordering anything else outside of these items that might be of use to others? Does or has Shrockworks offer/ed any other custom fab work or accessories on other vehicles that we might use on our bullbars?

I already paid in full, but I definitely didn't know about all the available options ... so I think it would be a great help if they had time to list them for us so we could make sure to let them know which we wanted.

[ToyFamily]

I already paid in full, but I definitely didn't know about all the available options ... so I think it would be a great help if they had time to list them for us so we could make sure to let them know which we wanted.

I'll check and see tomorrow...I wasn't aware of some of those listed.

Nick

[shrockworks]

It would help if I got our new www site up huh! Never enough hours in a day....Argh!



I started a new thread with all the official specs, pics and details. It will be updated as we think of things or questions come up.

http://www.toyota120.com/forum/showthread.php?t=693

[r0cky]

Nice, thanks for making this thread, it'll help a bunch! :)

[bulldog]

I made the thread a sticky in this section for a while. It will need to be moved to the vendor section at some point however, but I think folks want to get the details here for now.

[my034runner]

So, those of us that already paid the $859.00, that's not changing, correct? Cool, I'll probably get at least, the PIAA fog light for inside the bumper, and then go from there. Black powder coated please!! :bigok:


Oh yeah, I want the Black anodized fairlead! :bigok: :iagree :banana:

[Joel]

Two questions:

Do you think the fog lights will be an ok choice with the lights being recesed some?

Any personal experiance on the difference between the two driving lights for the top?

[expat]

Thank you. New thread is easy to follow.

Can someone lend me some money.........

[bulldog]

Thank you. New thread is easy to follow.

Can someone lend me some money.........
:rotflmao:

Stand in line!!! I need money first. My 4R is bankrupting me.

[expat]

Christ.... I'm so confused. Each time I read your standard and options list I seem to misunderstand.

In the options list you make mention of grey powder coating. Why only grey? I thought we could order other colors although they may not be exact matches for the Toyota color.

The way I read it presently, the standard color is black, with an option to pay additional for grey.

I have been asking for (in this forum, via email, and pm) for white and I understood this was an option that I'd need to pay slightly more for but was an option nontheless. Is this option no longer available?

[shrockworks]

So, those of us that already paid the $859.00, that's not changing, correct?

That's Correct.

[shrockworks]

Two questions:

Do you think the fog lights will be an ok choice with the lights being recesed some?

Any personal experiance on the difference between the two driving lights for the top?

The fogs in the Proto seemed really bright, especially for a fog light. You may loose a little light with the recess, but they will still be way brighter than the stock lights.

On the top lights, I like the white lights (520 SMR) for a long range light, but it's just personal preference really. A lot of people like the Blue-Gold lense reflections of the ion crystal during the day. It does look pretty cool.

From a function standpoint, all the Formula 1 race cars seem to run amber Ion crystal color lights and the Baja guys seem to run white or bluish HID....

[r0cky]

:rotflmao:

Stand in line!!! I need money first. My 4R is bankrupting me.

We could probably make a rather large club!

[shrockworks]

[QUOTE=expat] White....QUOTE]

For now I'm considering the white as more of a custom / special order thing rather than a std option, but I will do it for those who already requested it.

"Fairly close" is the best match I can promise though. If you think you might qualify as somewhat anal about the color match, get it painted to an exact match with automotive paint by a body shop.

[expat]

Ok, gotchya. No I'm not anal about the color (shutup you guys LOL). My sliders are powder coated white (no comments John!) but do not match exactly.

Thanks

[expat]

Has anyone actually bothered to contact their insurance yet to discover if there are going to be any issues? I think I will sound out mine (AAA) tomorrow.

Cheers
Mark

[my034runner]

We could probably make a rather large club!


I'm in. Crap, I just bought a big Engel fridge too. :cry: Now I need to get another $150.00 battery, and all the stuff for a dual battery, drawers to take the place of my camping gear box so I can mount my side by side Engel to it. Then I need to buy some syn. rope for my winch, and gears, and lockers and new off road lights, and a full size spare and a way to carry it, and a way to mount my Hi Lift, and new black rims, and a CO-2 tank to use instead of my Quick Air, and a belly pan/gas tank skid/new t-case/x-member skid, rear bumper, and on and on and on and etc......... :mecry: :shocked: :eek: :cry: :cry: :mecry: :spank:

I'll right behind you in BK court! :mecry: :spank:

[my034runner]

OK, gotchya. No I'm not anal about the color (shut up you guys LOL). My sliders are powder coated white (no comments John!) but do not match exactly.

Thanks




:jester: :jester: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :flipoff: :roflmao: :roflmao:

[kdubz]

Robert's is gonna look sweet, black on black. Im jealous.

Although this color will prolly look good with gray:

http://www.shrockworks.com/Forum_Images/2005frontierfront06.jpg

[Mikestang]

Thanks for posting this up. Looks like I'll get the bumper now and the winch for xmas! I'm thinking the grey will look really good on my silver truck... can't wait! :cow:

[ToyFamily]

You guys do outstanding work. Man that welding looks beautiful. Thank you.

http://www.shrockworks.com/Forum_Images/2005frontierfront06.jpg

There is actually two different welders' work in that pic.. ;) I welded up the bumper and our head shop guy (Buddy) welded the tube on later. Buddy's work is awesome.

Nick

[shrockworks]

Has anyone actually bothered to contact their insurance yet to discover if there are going to be any issues? I think I will sound out mine (AAA) tomorrow.

Never heard of any. We actually send a LOT of bumpers to body shops that are paid for by insurance companies. People trash the stock plastic-fantastic stuff in a wreck, and replace it with a real bumper. Insurance companies dont seem to have a problem with it. See if you can get someone to hit you! :D

[expat]

See if you can get someone to hit you! :D

Errrr...that'd be the wife :xnuts:

[expat]

Robert's is gonna look sweet, black on black.

Agreed. I was thinking the same thing.

[Jared]

Never heard of any. We actually send a LOT of bumpers to body shops that are paid for by insurance companies. People trash the stock plastic-fantastic stuff in a wreck, and replace it with a real bumper. Insurance companies dont seem to have a problem with it. See if you can get someone to hit you! :D
:lol:

I've been thinking about that for my rear bumper. I would *never* commit insurance fraud, but if I DID happen to get rear ended, I'd have my insurance company send me directly to Demello's. No offense to you Shrockworks, just I doubt my insurance would pay for it to be towed to another state.

Get rear ended, maybe dent the rear quarter panels... um well, I think I should replace w/ DOM tubing and fiberglass... yumm.

[expat]

AAA told me my policy would not be voided by the addition of the bullbar but could not be added as additional equipment (loss of bullbar would not be covered in an accident).

A winch can be added as additional equipment. For a $850 winch the premium would increase by $24 per yr.

I also found out I am eligible for a Professionals Discount Program which gives me a 10% discount on my premiums. Glad I rang! :)

[the_bear]

How much space is there from the light mounting holes up to the bottom of the center bar? And are the holes forward, under, or behind the center of the bar any? What about side to side spacing of the holes in realtion to each other and to the sides of the center bar? Trying to see what size lights will fit in under the hoops, or to do without the hoops.

Thank you,

-Eric

[Joel]

I think the issue with upper lights will be the distance from the hood when it's opening.

[AlexJet]

AAA told me my policy would not be voided by the addition of the bullbar but could not be added as additional equipment (loss of bullbar would not be covered in an accident).

A winch can be added as additional equipment. For a $850 winch the premium would increase by $24 per yr.

I also found out I am eligible for a Professionals Discount Program which gives me a 10% discount on my premiums. Glad I rang! :)

Hmmm... I never called myself in, but I my friend did. He has 3rd Gen. After calling the insurance company and telling them that he has winch bumper + winch + 2" suspension lift his insurance premium jump up 35%. :confused:

How does this work: "Professionals Discount Program"? Never heard about it.

[sibanez]

It depends on the company and how they write their policies. USAA will cover the bumper/sliders for a small increase (less than $10 a month) but they get really touchy on motorcycle exhausts.

[expat]

Hmmm... I never called myself in, but I my friend did. He has 3rd Gen. After calling the insurance company and telling them that he has winch bumper + winch + 2" suspension lift his insurance premium jump up 35%. :confused:

How does this work: "Professionals Discount Program"? Never heard about it.

Alex,

Each insurance company and I expect each state/country will have its variations. I am only reporting on my insurance company in SoCal. YMV

The PDP again applies to my insurance. If you are a scientist (my wife), educator (me), medical pract. or engineer they offer a discount on prem.s.

You just need to submit documents (eg PhD certificate and MEd. certificate in my families case) to get the discount.

[AlexJet]

Alex,
Each insurance company and I expect each state/country will have its variations. I am only reporting on my insurance company in SoCal. YMV

You have a point here.

The PDP again applies to my insurance. If you are a scientist (my wife), educator (me), medical pract. or engineer they offer a discount on prem.s.
You just need to submit documents (eg PhD certificate and MEd. certificate in my families case) to get the discount.

That's very interesting. I didn't know that those programs are existing. I might call my broker to find it out.

[the_bear]

I think the issue with upper lights will be the distance from the hood when it's opening.
Hence my question about relation of the bar to the light holes. Since the hood clears the bar, if we know where the holes are in relation to the bar, we can determine if certain models of lights extend back into the space needed to open the hood.

-Eric

[Mikestang]

Is a second battery and/or upgraded alternator required for the winches?

[shrockworks]

The holes are about 1.5" on center from the front edge of the bumper. The holes are 9/16" diameter, so you may be able to push the lights fwd a bit inthe hole with and M10 or 3/8" stud light. The tube is 2" and the center of it is about 1.5" from the edge also.

Hella 500's cleared for the pics. The PIAA 520's dont come back very far, so they should be OK. We will test the PIAA 520's.

[Tucson T4R]

Is a second battery and/or upgraded alternator required for the winches?

A larger alternator is not required. Even a second battery is not required but it is a very good idea. I ran a Warn 8000 LB winch on my last 4Runner for years with just the primary battery. You just have to be careful not to run down your only battery when out in the booneys.

This time I plan to install a second battery to attach the winch. That way you have additional battery power avail for the winch but you also have a great back up battery in the event your primary battery fails.

[shrockworks]

Is a second battery and/or upgraded alternator required for the winches?

I have never found this to be necessary. Even winching 3 people in a row up a hill with a Sammi with a 55A alternator and a puny battery.

Longs pulls in mud could make for different results, but I avoid that stuff. :D

[ksneubec]

How much space is there from the light mounting holes up to the bottom of the center bar?

I asked Jim today and he told me 8.5 inches.

[PanteraLKN]

so what is everyone ordering?

also -- when can we expect shipment?

I'm considering going with the 510 fogs, 520 ion crystal fogs and the heavy duty top o line winch ramsey 9500 with synth.

yeah its pricey -- but i shouldn't have to change out anything anytime soon!! lol :-)


also - -if purchasing these multiple products -- do we still qualify for the extra 5% you are offering on your web site?

[PanteraLKN]

anybody order yet?

[Joel]

I went with the 520 superwhites for the top and the 510 fogs for in the bumper. Full tube.

[PanteraLKN]

cool -- did you get a shipping time frame?

[Joel]

I was told 3 weeks when I called last week.

[bulldog]

I got the small ion fogs with full tube and black PC. I just couldn't resist the remote ramsey as well. I will look into driving lights at a later point. I would love the Ligthforce 240s, but not sure if they will fit. Maybe 170s later.

[Mikestang]

I got the small driving lights, grey PC, full tube, shackles, and a fairlead. My budget couldn't fit the winch right now, but I'll be adding the Ramsey 9500 w/synth rope and wireless remote at the end of the year.

[r0cky]

I got the ion fogs, full tube, and the grey PC which is supposed to match the cladding.

[ksneubec]

I got the black PC, full tubes, ion fogs, will use my current 580s for driving lights up top, and went with the 8000 for winching- Jim told me that its essentially the same as the 9500 but geared a bit differently.

I also ordered the remote plug mount for the plug in winch controller and a mount for my CB antenna.

[shrockworks]

This is bumper prototype #1 made into a finished bumper with some hand adjustments for a local 2006 customer. The only noticeable difference is that there are no splash guards. We also angled the main tube hoop forward slightly rather than standing it straight up and down.

We are down to 2-3 weeks till shipping now. :D


http://www.shrockworks.com/Forum_Images/4runner-gen4-fb18.jpg

http://www.shrockworks.com/Forum_Images/4runner-gen4-fb19.jpg

http://www.shrockworks.com/Forum_Images/4runner-gen4-fb20.jpg

[Mikestang]

/drool :chowtime:
Is the angled center tube std now? I really like that and would like my bumper to be done llike that as well.

[Joel]

I'm glad you guys went with a 2nd proto. #1 appears to be an inch or so narrow on both sides. It also looks like the bumper works better with 03-05 fender plastic. Even still it looks great!

[shrockworks]

/drool :chowtime:
Is the angled center tube std now? I really like that and would like my bumper to be done llike that as well.

Everyone here liked it better too. The straight up-down tube when viewed directly from the side was the only thing I wasnt crazy about. We tried a slight forward tilted and every one here liked it...so it will become the std way of doing it.

If anyone DOESNT want it angled, let me know. We have maybe a week till we can no longer make changes to the orders.


http://www.shrockworks.com/Forum_Images/4runner-gen4-fb16.jpg

http://www.shrockworks.com/Forum_Images/4runner-gen4-fb20.jpg

http://www.shrockworks.com/Forum_Images/4runner-gen4-fb21.jpg

http://www.shrockworks.com/Forum_Images/4runner-gen4-fb22.jpg

[shrockworks]

I'm glad you guys went with a 2nd proto. #1 appears to be an inch or so narrow on both sides. It also looks like the bumper works better with 03-05 fender plastic. Even still it looks great!

I forgot about that..... The wrap around wings are a bit shorter on this one too. The pre '06 lends itself better to an aftermarket bumper in that spot by the flares...not a big deal really though as you said.

[ksneubec]

The little tabs on the sides, angled towards the roof rack- are those for steel wires connected to the roof rack, to protect against branches? (I'm assuming they have a name but I have no idea what they are called.) Can I get those too? And I like the forward angle of the center tube too!

[r0cky]

I think the angle looks awesome.

I'm looking forward to the road trip when things are ready! :)

[Joel]

Does the controller plug hole work with Warn winches? Is the hole standard?

[bulldog]

Man that bumper looks excellent on a lifted 4R.

Jim, please keep my hoops straight up as discussed. I think that way I will be able to fit large driving lights (read lightforce 240s).

[Joel]

I will probably look at them later, but go for the 170s as I saw the 240s on Lance's truck and it looks like sat dishes in person. Very nice but too big for my taste.

I think that way I will be able to fit large driving lights (read lightforce 240s).

:jester: :flipoff:

[bulldog]

:jester: :flipoff:
Yeah I know, sometimes I can't make up my mind. Since I'm going blind in my old age I might as well get al the help I need. The 240s look huge, but once I have the bumper I will get a sense of how they will look on the SW bumper. I might just add sat dishes so we can watch some TV out on the trail :flipoff:

Just keeping my options open :flip2:

[expat]

I like the swept forward main hoop. Nice touch. Don't dig those tabs on the side for the cables tho. - I guess that was a custom request tho.

The PIAA lights on top of the bullbar look tiny. I hope some Lightforce's work in that space. Also hope there is room to set the lights back a bit more. I guess because of the way the engine hood opens, maybe not.

I note that the sides of the bumper don't match up with the lines of the fender (not quite long enough) which is a shame, but again I guess it's function over form. The ARB one does line up but I imagine there is a loss in approach angle or maybe wheel clearance.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y93/expatozzie/ARBbumper.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y93/expatozzie/Shrockworks.jpg

[Cruiserhead]

Damn that looks tight! Can't wait to see it on the trail :rockon:

Andries, I am almost certain the 240's won't clear the hoop nor have enough depth for the housing.
I think the PIAA's pictured look pretty good there.

question: how do you grab the winch clutch lever? Thru the squareish holes under the hawse?

Mark: I remember reading a Taco owner saying he had to cut the wings of the ARB bumper to clear 285 MT's.
Not ideal, but photos tend to exaggerate the effect - more than reality.

[Mikestang]

I note that the sides of the bumper don't match up with the lines of the fender (not quite long enough)

Check out the post again, you'll see that this is prototype #1 bumper reloaded. Check out proto #2 and it lines up much better.
http://www.shrockworks.com/Forum_Images/4runner-gen4-fb17.jpg

[bulldog]

Damn that looks tight! Can't wait to see it on the trail :rockon:

Andries, I am almost certain the 240's won't clear the hoop nor have enough depth for the housing.
I think the PIAA's pictured look pretty good there.

question: how do you grab the winch clutch lever? Thru the squareish holes under the hawse?

Mark: I remember reading a Taco owner saying he had to cut the wings of the ARB bumper to clear 285 MT's.
Not ideal, but photos tend to exaggerate the effect - more than reality.
Yeah I will measure and check things when I have the bumper on. Driving lights are not a big priority at the moment.

Apparently the clutch lever should be accesable through the bottom cutouts.

[Dealmaker]

I ordered black PC, black anodized fairlead, ion foglights, and shackles. Main tube straight up & down.

[expat]

Nevermind :ignore:

[shrockworks]

Does the controller plug hole work with Warn winches? Is the hole standard?

The the electrical pin pattern and size is different b/t the two, but the hole in our bumper works with either the Ramsey or Warn plugs.

[Roams001]

Angled front tube for me please.

Jim, what is the name and specs of those wheels on the 2006? I like!

[ToyFamily]

prototype #2 is about 2" longer. But now seeing an 06 in person the fender flairs are larger. On the lights the 05 guys are going to have more room than the 06. The 06 grill sticks out about 1" from the 05.

The tabs on the lifted truck for the cables to the roof rack were a customer option....if you request it, realize that the cables would have to be taken off each time you open the hood...that or get a wider rack on top.

Nick

[Joel]

question: how do you grab the winch clutch lever? Thru the squareish holes under the hawse?.

Here is a photo with the hood open:
http://www.shrockworks.com/Forum_Images/4runner-gen4-fb7.jpg




Is getting the more angled main tube an option?

[MAC4Runner]

:bow:

That bumper is awesome. Hats off to Shrockworks for not only being first to the market, but also crafting an excellent product!

:rockon:

[PanteraLKN]

scwhing!!! ordering today!

[Mikestang]

Is getting the more angled main tube an option?

On previous page:

We tried a slight forward tilted and every one here liked it...so it will become the std way of doing it.

[Joel]

Right, I was just curious if the more angled bar could be an "option".

[shrockworks]

Right, I was just curious if the more angled bar could be an "option".

If you dont want it that way, let me know. It will come that way unless somone requests it straight, so I guess it is an option in that sense.

Unless you have a 2006+, then the slight angle out is mandatory.

[Joel]

Sorry, I'm confused I guess. The style of hoops on the dark grey truck is the standard style?

[shrockworks]

Sorry, I'm confused I guess. The style of hoops on the dark grey truck is the standard style?

Correct, it will come that way unless uyou have requested it to be straight.

[jbs11]

Angled front tube for me please.

Jim, what is the name and specs of those wheels on the 2006? I like!

They are Pro Comp Xtreme series wheels from Wheeler's Offroad:
http://www.wheelersoffroad.com/4runnertoyblackalloys.htm

The fronts don't fit without a (tiny) bit of grinding on the calipers.


BTW, the bumper looks even better in person! I can't wait to hit the trails.
broc

[my034runner]

The angled hoops is absolutely SICK!! :shocked: :bow:

So, mine will have them, as well as the black fairlead, the fog lights, and the black shackles!! Oh yeah, it's powder-coated BLACK!

Jim said about two weeks.

Jim, if you can get them to us within the 2 weeks we'll have them in time for our Mojave Road trip. Sept. 15th - 17th! :bigok:

[Vegas Runner]

Robert,

Any objections to having my bumper shipped with yours and Joel's to Findlay?

Ed

[my034runner]

Robert,

Any objections to having my bumper shipped with yours and Joel's to Findlay?

Ed


Hell no, make sure you tell Jim!!
Also, ask him if having three bumpers instead of two makes shipping less. It should, as it reduced the cost from 1 to 2. So 3 should reduce it more. After you talk to Jim, let Joel and I know what he said about the shipping cost. Right now, we're @ $83.00 for shipping instead of the $140+ that he said it would be for one. :wavey:

Also, I guess he might need to label them so know who's is who's.

[Tucson T4R]

so what is everyone ordering?


I went for the Black full tube with 510 ion crystal fogs in the bumper and the 520 ion crystal driving lights on top. That way I can wire the bumper fogs right into the factory wiring and wire the bigger driving lights so the relay picks with my high beams. I couldn't resist and went for the Ramsey 9500 wireless option. :bigok: I also ordered a pair of the shackles and their sliders. Feels just like Christmas. :D

[PanteraLKN]

I went for the Black full tube with 510 ion crystal fogs in the bumper and the 520 ion crystal driving lights on top. That way I can wire the bumper fogs right into the factory wiring and wire the bigger driving lights so the relay picks with my high beams. I couldn't resist and went for the Ramsey 9500 wireless option. :bigok: I also ordered a pair of the shackles and their sliders. Feels just like Christmas. :D


I hear that!! i ordered the exact same thing minus the winch --i just couldn't justify the difference in price between the 8000 and 9500

come on ups!!!

:bigok:

[bulldog]

Remember Jim I ordered and paid first, so I should get mine first too :D

[expat]

Remember Jim I ordered and paid first, so I should get mine first too :D


LOL. too funny Andries.

[shrockworks]

Remember Jim I ordered and paid first, so I should get mine first too :D



We use the LIFO inventory management and accounting system.

Last In First Out. :flip2:

[Mikestang]

Woot, that means I'm second, heh heh :readit:

[my034runner]

We use the LIFO inventory management and accounting system.

Last In First Out. :flip2:



Man that sucks Andries, :mecry: :roflmao: :roflmao: Hey, but wait- I think I'm like third or something, Crap- I'm screwed also!%&#@$&% :flipoff: :cry:

[bulldog]

We use the LIFO inventory management and accounting system.

Last In First Out. :flip2:
Man this blows. Fortunately I know I will get mine shipped out first, right :D

[shrockworks]

We should have about 12 ready for powder coat tomorrow. :D


http://www.shrockworks.com/Forum_Images/4runner-gen4-fbp01.jpg

http://www.shrockworks.com/Forum_Images/4runner-gen4-fbp02.jpg


http://www.shrockworks.com/Forum_Images/4runner-gen4-fbp03.jpg

[PanteraLKN]

cool!!! i think i see my name on one yipeeeeeeee

[Joel]

Now that is a pretty sight Jim!

[Mikestang]

Lookin' good! Man, I can't wait to see all those on our trucks.

[my034runner]

:bow: :bow: :shocked: :bow: :bow: :banana: :thrasher: :cow: :bigok: :bigok: :bigok:


Mine looks like the first one in that pic with the hoops! :wavey:

Next time you're in Las Vegas Jim, I've got your :beer: :beer: :beer:

[r0cky]

yippeee! those are a beautiful sight!

[t-rex grrr]

kind of a random question, but on the second 4runner with the piaa's, does anyone know if those are the 17x9 pro comp alloy wheels?

thanks,

aj

[expat]

Sweet Jim.

errrr.....

Sweet, Jim!


Congrats to you (and us - yeah us!!!!)

[jbs11]

kind of a random question, but on the second 4runner with the piaa's, does anyone know if those are the 17x9 pro comp alloy wheels?

thanks,

aj

T-Rex,
Pro-Comp alloys, yes, but 16x8.
broc

[shrockworks]

Off to powder coat!! :D


http://www.shrockworks.com/Forum_Images/4runner-gen4-fbp04.jpg

[Mikestang]

It's like going to the hospital and visiting a new born at the little viewing area...

[my034runner]

Off to powder coat!! :D


http://www.shrockworks.com/Forum_Images/4runner-gen4-fbp04.jpg



Nice! That first one's mine, I can clearly see my name all over it!! :lol: :roflmao:

[ksneubec]

Can someone post info on how to remove the front bumper? With time I'm sure I could figure it out, but "with a little help from my friends," it would be a lot easier and less time consuming if someone can tell us how to disconnect the lights, bumper, etc.

[bulldog]

Can someone post info on how to remove the front bumper? With time I'm sure I could figure it out, but "with a little help from my friends," it would be a lot easier and less time consuming if someone can tell us how to disconnect the lights, bumper, etc.
I can look at it this weekend and probaby just scan in the repair manual pages. DIsconecting th elights are pretty easy as you just crawl underneath and pull the plugs.

[AlexJet]

Can someone post info on how to remove the front bumper? With time I'm sure I could figure it out, but "with a little help from my friends," it would be a lot easier and less time consuming if someone can tell us how to disconnect the lights, bumper, etc.

Very easy. I've done it last Friday.
1. Remove the plastic trim piece around the headlights and radiator.
2. Take off the lower grille portion. It's attached to the bumper. Be careful with clips. Use a flat screwdriver, remove from one side to the center by unplugging front and rear clips at the same time.
3. Take all bolts from the bottom of the bumper off.
4. Remove the bolts front the fender well which holds the bumper.
5. Unplug the DRL/Turn signals and Fog lights.
6. Slide the bumper off the frame. It may need a little push.
7. As soon as you removed the plastic portion, just unscrew the bolts which holding the frame element of the front bumper and take it off.
8. For aftermarket bumper installation, remove two holding pieces on the sides of the front fenders. They are located right beside the headlight and lower then front of the fender.
9. Now you have your bumper off the vehicle. ;)

If you have any further questions, feel free to ask :rotflmao:

[Mikestang]

Jim/Nick/any other SW employees:

Is any documentation coming with the bumper re: how to install? Specifically I'm looking for torque numbers for the bolts, etc.

Thanks for the quick removal directions, Alex.

[AlexJet]

...
Thanks for the quick removal directions, Alex.

No worries.

[expat]

Alex,
How long did this take you?

[expat]

Off to powder coat!! :D


http://www.shrockworks.com/Forum_Images/4runner-gen4-fbp04.jpg



Hmmm...I assume mine's already done, as there are none in that batch that have the tabs I requested on the hoops for the antennas. Here's hoping :bow: and praying.

[r0cky]

Alex,
How long did this take you?

It shouldn't take too long. Once you've done it one time, it's pretty easy to do it again ... the difficult part the first time is just finding all the tabs and such.

[ksneubec]

Very easy. I've done it last Friday.
1. Remove the plastic trim piece around the headlights and radiator.
2. Take off the lower grille portion. It's attached to the bumper. Be careful with clips. Use a flat screwdriver, remove from one side to the center by unplugging front and rear clips at the same time.
3. Take all bolts from the bottom of the bumper off.
4. Remove the bolts front the fender well which holds the bumper.
5. Unplug the DRL/Turn signals and Fog lights.
6. Slide the bumper off the frame. It may need a little push.
7. As soon as you removed the plastic portion, just unscrew the bolts which holding the frame element of the front bumper and take it off.
8. For aftermarket bumper installation, remove two holding pieces on the sides of the front fenders. They are located right beside the headlight and lower then front of the fender.
9. Now you have your bumper off the vehicle. ;)

If you have any further questions, feel free to ask :rotflmao:

Thanks Alex! Any photos?

[shrockworks]

Hmmm...I assume mine's already done, as there are none in that batch that have the tabs I requested on the hoops for the antennas. Here's hoping :bow: and praying.

Squint. :cool1: They're there.

http://www.shrockworks.com/Forum_Images/tabs.jpg

[expat]

Oh shoot! Are the tabs facing outwards? I've never seen them point forwards. I've only had them face inwards.

Sheit!!!!!!!!

[r0cky]

Oh shoot! Are the tabs facing outwards? I've never seen them point forwards. I've only had them face inwards.

Sheit!!!!!!!!

I'm sure they have good reason to have placed them where they did, facing the way they do.

[expat]

I'm sure they have good reason to have placed them where they did, facing the way they do.


Normally they face inwards so if your leaning over the bullbar to work in the engine bay area your not stabbing yourself. Likewise just a safety issue working around the truck (washing) - avoid parts that poke outwards. Also visually keeping lines clean. Damn!

In oz all my bullbars had the tabs facing inwards.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y93/expatozzie/CB%20instal/12metersetup.jpg

If you look at the picture of the l/c ute in Oz on the ARB site on the far right you'll notice the tabs are inward facing.

http://www.arbusa.com/New_Product_Advices/4_runner.pdf

And another

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y93/expatozzie/CB%20instal/landcruiser_100_commercial_bull_bar.jpg

:cry: :cry: :cry:

[r0cky]

Well, I dunno, guess we'll just have to wait and see what they say. :)

[expat]

I've emailed them.

[ToyFamily]

[QUOTE=expat]Normally they face inwards so if your leaning over the bullbar to work in the engine bay area your not stabbing yourself. Likewise just a safety issue working around the truck (washing) - avoid parts that poke outwards. Also visually keeping lines clean. Damn!

In oz all my bullbars had the tabs facing inwards.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y93/expatozzie/CB%20instal/12metersetup.jpg

If you look at the picture of the l/c ute in Oz on the ARB site on the far right you'll notice the tabs are inward facing.

http://www.arbusa.com/New_Product_Advices/4_runner.pdf

And another

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y93/expatozzie/CB%20instal/landcruiser_100_commercial_bull_bar.jpg




I already e-mailed you back and am waiting for Jim to get in to try and resolve this. The the hood opening is VERY close, and we tried to put it where you requested as much as possible, which was "as close to the center hoop as poss on the outer tube" told to me. The grill stays on the body in that pic, not the case on these 4runners, it's been a PITA in many ways.

http://www.shrockworks.com/Forum_Images/4runner-gen4-fb23.jpg
Nick

[expat]

Yeah well thanks for looking at it. I was expecting the tabs would be welded on as close to the centre hops as possible - probably near the inside edge of the headlight where there is no hood clearance issues.

Oh well :(

The bar is already in for powdercoating so too late now. I guess I'll just have to grind it off when I eventually have it powdercoated again.

Thanks for your quick response.

For anyone else, Jim told via via phone today that shipment should be 1.5 weeks - one week for powdercoating and a few days for packaging before shipment.

[Jared]

Yeah well thanks for looking at it. I was expecting the tabs would be welded on as close to the centre hops as possible - probably near the inside edge of the headlight where there is no hood clearance issues.

Oh well :(

The bar is already in for powdercoating so too late now. I guess I'll just have to grind it off when I eventually have it powdercoated again.

Thanks for your quick response.

For anyone else, Jim told via via phone today that shipment should be 1.5 weeks - one week for powdercoating and a few days for packaging before shipment.

Maybe I missed something in your posts, but I don't get why having them on the outside does anything to effect the install of your antennas? I'm sure they do, because you seemed pretty bummed, but could you explain it a little bit more.

[AlexJet]

I think Mark was referring to this:
"Normally they face inwards so if your leaning over the bullbar to work in the engine bay area your not stabbing yourself. Likewise just a safety issue working around the truck (washing) - avoid parts that poke outwards. Also visually keeping lines clean."
I'd prefer them inwards too for the same reasons.

[r0cky]

I think Mark was referring to this:
"Normally they face inwards so if your leaning over the bullbar to work in the engine bay area your not stabbing yourself. Likewise just a safety issue working around the truck (washing) - avoid parts that poke outwards. Also visually keeping lines clean."
I'd prefer them inwards too for the same reasons.


Yeah, but like they said, the bumper and hoops are so close to the hood/body that it would've been very difficult to have them facing inward ...

[expat]

Yeah, but like they said, the bumper and hoops are so close to the hood/body that it would've been very difficult to have them facing inward ...


When we get the bullbars, I think you will see that the hood clearance issue relates to the centre hoop. Near the headlights this is not an issue. Anywhere around the headlight area of the side hoops the tabs should fit facing inwards without clearance issues.

[r0cky]

I was just repeating what ToyFamily said.

[expat]

...effect the install of your antennas?

I never said they would effect the instal of the antennas :guns:

I simply wanted the tabs facing inwards to avoid them sticking into me and others when working around the bullbar/engine bay area.

The antennas will work exactly the same with either the tabs facing inwards or outwards.

[bulldog]

Just FYI. If you get the bullbar with the center hoop tilted forward there will be more space between the hood and the hoop. The pic shows the one with the straight up hoop.

[r0cky]

Just FYI. If you get the bullbar with the center hoop tilted forward there will be more space between the hood and the hoop. The pic shows the one with the straight up hoop.


Actually, the pics of the bumpers on their way to PCing have the foward-angled hoops ... it's just slight enough that they appear to be straight up (but aren't) ... just have to look really closely ... ;)


EDIT: unless you're referring to the picture of the single bumper already installed.

[bulldog]

I was referring to the pic posted showing the clearance of the hood and the mounted bumper. This bumper has the straight up hoop, like my bumper will be. Most folks got the tilted forward hoop, which will also be standard in future bumpers.

[r0cky]

Yep, cool. :) And you made a good point - if he ordered the tilted forward version, then there will be more room for the tabs, for sure.

[expat]

Yep, cool. :) And you made a good point - if he ordered the tilted forward version, then there will be more room for the tabs, for sure.


Am I "he"? If so, I did not request an upright middle hoop so mine will be tilted forward.

[my034runner]

Any more updates on shipping/arrival?

[shrockworks]

about one week to ship now!

[my034runner]

about one week to ship now!



Nice!!! Thanks Jim! :bow:
But do you mean one week from today? That means that we in Las Vegas should be getting ours by next Tuesday, Sept. 12th, correct!! If so, I should be able to at least get the bumper on before our Mojave Road trip, might have to install the winch at a later date. :rockon:

[Mikestang]

About one week to ship to me means they'll probably ship sometime next week, so it seems they wouldn't arrive until the following week after we return.

[my034runner]

About one week to ship to me means they'll probably ship sometime next week, so it seems they wouldn't arrive until the following week after we return.


Yeah, I know. I just saw the One Week, and got ahead of myself, before I actually payed attention to the rest.

But, I did call Jim just after I posted that, and he said that there might be a slight chance of getting it by next week. I'll keep my fingers and toes crossed!! :devil:

[r0cky]

Picking mine up on Tuesday. :)

[bulldog]

Picking mine up on Tuesday. :)
Lucky you. Seems Jim is sticking to his LIFO (last in first out) policy :pissed2:

Actually suites me better if I dont get my bumper till after Mojave, as I wont have time to fit it. I needed it before this weekend to be able to do it.

[r0cky]

Lucky you. Seems Jim is sticking to his LIFO (last in first out) policy :pissed2:

Actually suites me better if I dont get my bumper till after Mojave, as I wont have time to fit it. I needed it before this weekend to be able to do it.

I don't think that's it - I think he has a whole bunch ready to ship out, and the fact that I can drive down to pick mine up just means that I might get mine before some receive theirs shipped. Doesn't mean mine would've gone out before others if I had asked for mine shipped though. I hope you guys have an awesome time in Mohave.

[ToyFamily]

We have a trailer load of them in need of wraping, bolt kits, brackets,intsructions then shipping organized by time of ORDER....she is picking up. Anyone making the trip could surely (LIFO) come on by :bigok:

Nick

[bulldog]

We have a trailer load of them in need of wraping, bolt kits, brackets,intsructions then shipping organized by time of ORDER....she is picking up. Anyone making the trip could surely (LIFO) come on by :bigok:

Nick
I was just kidding :rotflmao:

Please post once you sip the first one, someone on the forum will be awrded a prize then.

[ToyFamily]

I understand, I'd be foaming at the mouth with excitement waiting.......wait til you see them, it's impressive. (seeing all these here)

Nick

[Mikestang]

I understand, I'd be foaming at the mouth with excitement waiting.......wait til you see them, it's impressive. (seeing all these here)

Nick

Snap us a pict! Now that they're all PC'd we could probably each pick our out of the herd.

[ToyFamily]

Here's a quick one. We're still packing accesories, etc...the impressive one would have been seeing them all lined up powdercoated...it was sweet.

http://www.shrockworks.com/Forum_Images/4runner-gen4-fbp05.jpg
:bigok:
Nick

[Mikestang]

Wow, I'm going to need my wife's truck to get mine home... that or bring a hammer to work and take that shipping coffin apart!

[shrockworks]

Wow, I'm going to need my wife's truck to get mine home... that or bring a hammer to work and take that shipping coffin apart!

and a socket. It's bolted to the pallet. :D

[Roams001]

I just got a Bill of Lading email...does that mean it's shipped?!?!

:beer:

[ksneubec]

I just got a Bill of Lading email...does that mean it's shipped?!?!

:beer:

Me too, what does that mean????

[Dealmaker]

I got three! And I believe there were two different reference numbers, two with the same ref. # and a third with a different #.

[my034runner]

Well I didn't get anything. Maybe the guys furthest away get theirs first? :pissed1: :mecry:

[bulldog]

Well I didn't get anything. Maybe the guys furthest away get theirs first? :pissed1: :mecry:
Don't feel bad I ordered first and didn't get anythign either. :pissed2: :pissed2:

If anyone has a shipping date for the first bumper yet please post up so I canaward the competition prize. I expect to see mine next week sometime anyhow, I have other things to do this weekend :beer:

[Dealmaker]

Shipment Date: 09/12/2006
Transit Days: 03


Don't feel bad I ordered first and didn't get anythign either. :pissed2: :pissed2:

If anyone has a shipping date for the first bumper yet please post up so I canaward the competition prize. I expect to see mine next week sometime anyhow, I have other things to do this weekend :beer:

[my034runner]

Well crap, I was one of the first to order mine too, where the hell is my shipping confirmation??? :pissed1:

[Joel]

Niether of you two would have time to put it on before Mojave anyway, so stop your whining.. :mecry: :spank: :flipoff:

[bulldog]

Niether of you two would have time to put it on before Mojave anyway, so stop your whining.. :mecry: :spank: :flipoff:
See my posts, I'm not whining :flipoff:

I will be :drink: this weekend thinking about the bumper :D

[shrockworks]

Hi Guys,

We are waiting on a couple items for some of the orders. If you havent received a notce yet, you are one of those orders. Everything should have been here a week ago, but theory and reality never seen to mesh....

Everything is supposed to be here tomorrow though, so the rest of you should be getting notices Thursday. (except two orders placed within the last month.)

I had to make a choice b/t shipping what was ready to ship, or holding them simply because they had ordered later in the process. Hopefully you guys will understand that I didnt want to leave something ready to ship just sitting here in the warehouse.....

Jim

[Mikestang]

(except two orders placed within the last month.)

I bet one of those is me, bummer. :mecry:

[Vegas Runner]

Jim,

So did some of them ship yesterday, 09-12-06?

[shrockworks]

I bet one of those is me, bummer. :mecry:

Nope your's is done.

[shrockworks]

Jim,

So did some of them ship yesterday, 09-12-06?

Yep! So who won?

[shrockworks]

Pics from the local install...

http://www.shrockworks.com/Forum_Images/4runner-gen4-fb24.jpg

http://www.shrockworks.com/Forum_Images/4runner-gen4-fb25.jpg

http://www.shrockworks.com/Forum_Images/4runner-gen4-fb26.jpg

http://www.shrockworks.com/Forum_Images/4runner-gen4-fb27.jpg

[Ryanmb21]

Wow!!!!!!!!

That is the sickest bumper I have ever seen!!!! Jim, that is top notch!

[ToyFamily]

Jim forgot to mention this runner has a body lift...oh and that's our new black anodized fairlead.....maybe Jim will post a close up of it


Nick

[Mikestang]

Nope your's is done.

Cool, even though I didn't order it until the last month. :bounce:

New picts are beautiful, that grey is really nice, I can't wait to see it on my silver truck. I've even got a ledge picked out to test out the improved approach angle on, seeing as I can't drive at it straight enough now to make it up. Should I of done my lift first? Probably, but I couldn't resist this bumper.

[expat]

Bummer they're not going to be delivered this week. I had planned on installing this weekend seeing as I can't go to Mojave. Next weekend I can't install due to a family committment. Damn..three weeks before I can instal. Could I get it installed in one night? Might be possible with some late hours although that's really hard at the moment with my work committments. Oh well......roll eyes.

[bulldog]

Yep! So who won?
MAC4RUnner won. Actually Vegas RUnner guessed the date correclty tothe day, unfortunately he enetered to late to qualify.

[bulldog]

I see somebody got very lucky to get hers installed already!!!!

[Jared]

Bummer they're not going to be delivered this week. I had planned on installing this weekend seeing as I can't go to Mojave. Next weekend I can't install due to a family committment. Damn..three weeks before I can instal. Could I get it installed in one night? Might be possible with some late hours although that's really hard at the moment with my work committments. Oh well......roll eyes.

I don't see why you couldn't install it in one night. I know it's different than my tube style bumper, but you can take off your stock one in 30 minutes max, then bolt this one right up.

Oh, and I had to go change my shorts after seeing those pics. Nice color matching.

[r0cky]

I don't see why you couldn't install it in one night. I know it's different than my tube style bumper, but you can take off your stock one in 30 minutes max, then bolt this one right up.

Oh, and I had to go change my shorts after seeing those pics. Nice color matching.

It takes a lot more work to install than it does to remove the old one. That said, it is awesome, and I've gotten several comments already! I have lots of pictures from the install and after, so I'll send them to Jim and post some up here as well.

One thing needs a little tweaking on mine, but Jim has it covered and I'm so impressed both by the guys at the shop, and by the craftsmanship. They thought of everything! (except the hummingbird which was trapped hungry in the garage by its own ignorance) ;)

[bulldog]

Nice work there, I'm sure you are very happy with the new front bumper.


Jim can you perhaps start a new thread inthe 4R section adn post pics and installation instructions. I canmake it a tach write up as well adn save it in the write up section for future folks to pic up there. This will be very handy for quite a few of us now, and I'm sure lots of folks in the future. I can see lots of folks have used the suspension write up sections over the last year or so. Save smistakes and makes life easier for folks.

[ToyFamily]

We have 6 pgs of instructions coming with your bumper packed with pics, what tools are needed and wiring info. It took two of us about 2hrs. to remove the stock bumper, wire the lights and signals, and install the new one. Including double checking our info, and taking some further notes.

And though we installed it, I had Rocky read through the instructions to make sure they were straight forward, and easy to follow.

Nick

[TroutRunner]

Wow guys!

Great job on working to get this done. The bumper on Rocky's truck looks fantastic. I have been following this thread for a while and you and Shrockworks should be very proud of your accomplishment.

TR

[Jared]

We have 6 pgs of instructions coming with your bumper packed with pics, what tools are needed and wiring info. It took two of us about 2hrs. to remove the stock bumper, wire the lights and signals, and install the new one. Including double checking our info, and taking some further notes.

And though we installed it, I had Rocky read through the instructions to make sure they were straight forward, and easy to follow.

Nick

I forgot about wiring the lights, that would probably make the install not doable in a night.

[05sport4x4]

Very cool looking. :bigok: Definitely will have this on the ‘to do’ list for the 4runner.

[ToyFamily]

the light part of it is the easiest part....we tell you the color of wire that goes to the piaa and our signal light....5 min job. Even if you are not wiring inclined.

Nick

[Mikestang]

I think he's talking about the extra lights on top of the bumper. Those, I image, you need to run a separate relay, power lines, and switch in the cabin for.

[garrett1478]

looks sweet tracy. really sweet.

[AlexJet]

I think he's talking about the extra lights on top of the bumper. Those, I image, you need to run a separate relay, power lines, and switch in the cabin for.

Yes. I got those lights. They need full 2 circuits.

[expat]

Everything is supposed to be here tomorrow though, so the rest of you should be getting notices Thursday. (except two orders placed within the last month.)
Jim

So it's Thursday (evening) and still no notice :cry: :cry:

I was expecting a notice today (well actually last week I was expecting the bar today :mecry: ) saying that it was in the 3 day shipping process, but I still haven't heard anything.

I know it must be a PITA to deal with all the customers but its a real biatch when your constantly waiting on news that seems to come second hand and always seem to be more bad news.

WHERE'S MY BAR???????? :shout: :shout: :sleep: :sleep:

It's even worse when others already have there's on and are driving around!!!!!!

[r0cky]

It's even worse when others already have there's on and are driving around!!!!!!

Okay, this is the second or third post that gives me the sense of some misunderstanding or animosity toward the fact that I have the bumper --- look, any one of you guys could have had the bumper even before me, had you lived close enough to pick it up instead of having it shipped! I saw all of your bumpers in crates, wrapped carefully, and ready to go. The ONLY reason I have mine is because I drove 4 hours down there to pick it up since I was trying to save some money. If the shop were in California, all of you guys would have driven to get yours too and those of us in other states wouldn't yet have ours. It's not like I got some special early bumper here.

Also, you should be thankful that the bumper has been installed on a truck or two before being shipped to you. This way, any issues that came up with mine have been dealt with before you receive yours.

What "bad news" is it that you're referring to as far as what you've heard secondhand??

[expat]

Geez, over react Tracy!

Firstly my post isn't directed at you.

Secondly, look at the smilies - they're all crybaby smilies. They are not flaming hot heads and such.

Thirdly, bad news is such things as some bars being delayed due to waiting on parts. That might not be bad news to you, but it is to me.

There is no doubt we will all be grateful when the bars are on our trucks and we can use them for our intended uses. However, it has been a long haul in my mind (an opinion I believe I have a right to hold) from the initial germination of this project with my money being put up front from the outset. Its frustrating that I was told via a early post that notices were going out Thursday and I seem to have missed the boat. Its the same frustration I experienced believeing up until just last week that the bars were likely to be shipped early this week and now it appears not until next week given that I haven't recieved a notice. It might also be pointed out that the frustration is (again) experienced when you know some people have been notified of shipping but I have not. It's frustration but its not life or death and its nothing personal on anyone.

I could care less that you have yours, except its (again) frustrating to see these works of art on other people's trucks but not on mine. The same feeling I get when I see other trucks with better lifts, bigger tires yada yada.....

Honestly.........

[r0cky]

Mark, I wasn't overreacting - I was addressing an issue to clear the air.

They want these to be perfect, so when they ran across a small problem on mine they wanted to be sure to get the necessary parts and have things set up so that the problem doesn't occur for anyone else. Maybe those are the "parts" that are causing delay, I don't know.

I can tell you that when you get yours, you'll feel better about the wait - these things are, like you said, works of art. Hope everyone sees theirs soon.

[PanteraLKN]

no notice for me either -- and i paid back in may.... yeah i'm a cry baby!!! lol


perhaps tomorrow will be the day!!!


Mark

[Joel]

No notice here either. Lets not worry about a few days when we've waited months for these.

[r0cky]

I really bet that the hold up is simply due to Jim trying to get the extra part to resolve a light issue he discovered late Tuesday.

[Cruiserhead]

Tracy, looks really great! Bet you're really excited

It's funny reading Mark's posts chomping at the bit ;) It will all be forgotten when he gets it installed tho. hehe

Nice work to ASOLO for leaving his truck so long and SW for a real nice product it seems- best on selling tons. Glad to see Tracy was a guniea pig and they ironed out any last details.

Nice, post more stuff Tracy! I want to see Mark get bent a little more...hehe, ;)

[r0cky]

I sent Jim some more pictures, so I guess I'll let him decide what (if anything) he wants to post of them. :)

[expat]

I want to see Mark get bent a little more...hehe, ;)


LOL. It's like watching your wife having sex with another man..."Hey that's mine! Give it back!" (not that I know what that's like tho :rotflmao: having your wife...well you get my point...I hope! )

[expat]

Nice, post more stuff Tracy!

I'll close my eyes, pictures hurt too much :eek: :rotflmao:

[Mikestang]

LOL. It's like watching your wife having sex with another man..."Hey that's mine! Give it back!" (not that I know what that's like tho :rotflmao: having your wife...well you get my point...I hope! )

:rotflmao: :rotflmao:

[my034runner]

LOL. It's like watching your wife having sex with another man..."Hey that's mine! Give it back!" (not that I know what that's like tho :rotflmao: having your wife...well you get my point...I hope! )



:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :cow:

[my034runner]

I'll close my eyes, pictures hurt too much :eek: :rotflmao:


Just use a red hot poker, then you really won't have to lookk! :bigok: :roflmao:

[ToyFamily]

I assure you we are full bore on these...just do like any wheeler does (myself incl.) and look at pics and dream about it while you wait....I have projects put together in my head that I haven't even begun to get the money to buy....that's worse than waiting on a paid product because it's in the process of coming your way. It seems to dull the passing of time..

If you were going to buy an ARB it still wouldn't be here (I know they are close), and you've only seen one bumper adapted to a 4runner. Atleast we have some veriety pics for you and some updates. I could be wrong but I don't think you'd be this involved and informed with a large co. like that. JMO

You will get your notices ASAP


thanks,

Nick

[Roams001]

As I found out in the first few pages of this thread - humor does not come through on the internet too well.

Nick, we love ya man, thanks to you, Jim and the SW Team; we will have an amazing bumper on our trucks. I hope that it is a top seller and motivates Shrockworks to keep working with the 4th Gen community to provide a rear bumper, skids, muffler bearings, turn signal fluid, new air for my tires...a bolt-on fake blower for my hood. Ok, just the first two.

All kidding aside, I do look at the pictures of r0cky's truck about 5 times a day and smile (I think my boss may fire me because of it). I'll wait patiently as I know I'm getting the best and I appreciate the time and effort it took to make an excellent product.

I'll be doing this :tequila: this weekend to pass the time till the bumper arrives on Monday.

Have a great weekend everyone, now...

:gimmie:

[shrockworks]

LOL. It's like watching your wife having sex with another man..."Hey that's mine! Give it back!"


:lol::lol::lol::lol: That is hilarious. Thanks for the laugh on a really tough day! Glad to see the sense of humor in still in tact despite the waiting. I know it sucks!

The good news: Everyone here and I do mean EVERYONE is working to get these bumpers out today. I'm optimistic so far that it will happen.

The not so great, but not that bad news: Despite my best efforts to get
everything here at the same time....some of you will not be getting everything at once. Nothing major though though, so dont get too excited.

1 - We tweaked the blinker lights on the final design (see them on Tracy's pics). It looks really sweet, but the new light doesn't draw enough current to convince the flasher it isn't burnt out. We have a fix. The first group that went out does NOT have the fix included. The ones going out today will. Those of you from the first group (and Tracy) will receive it separately via FedEx. Pic of what the correct blinker wire looks like:

http://www.shrockworks.com/Forum_Images/4runner-gen4-fbp06.jpg

2 - Ramsey did not ship us the Wireless kits with the winches. They are drop shipping these to you today.

3 - Neubecker, Garland, Tomlinson - Your winches are shipping separately via FedEx and will arrive a couple days after the bumper.

4 - Some of you who ordered shackles will be getting those in a separate box.

5 - Rasmus, your 6" lights are coming separate w/ the shackles.

Thanks for everyone's patience. This was a logistical challenge for us. There are NO known problems with the bumper. I'm confident you guys will really like it!

Jim

[shrockworks]

A now for a few more pics of expat's wife doing the Boom Boom.....at the beach. :devil:


http://www.shrockworks.com/Forum_Images/4runner-gen4-fb28.jpg

http://www.shrockworks.com/Forum_Images/4runner-gen4-fb29.jpg


http://www.shrockworks.com/Forum_Images/4runner-gen4-fb30.jpg

[r0cky]

LOL, so bad, Jim, so bad. ;)