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bulldog
12-28-2007, 08:52 AM
Alex, the v6 and v8 uses the same rear flange AFAIK.

The pinion for the rear has a different spline count than the 4th Gen comes with OEM. So you either have to use a third gen flange and drill holes, or according to the gear guy I used you can buy the old 4cyl turbo rear flange. It has the right spline count and bolt directly to the rear driveshaft without the need for drilling holes.

So the question to the gear supplier would be if they supply the rear flange or not. Or if they now supply rear gears where the rear pinion has the correct spline count, so not just 3rd gen gears reused.

Crozhawk
12-28-2007, 09:14 AM
In the post I added above it lists a flange adapter, shouldn't that cover it?

Crozhawk
12-28-2007, 09:15 AM
Ben is coming by tomorrow morning so we can install his bumper ...I'll compare his rear flange to mine

bulldog
12-28-2007, 09:16 AM
In the post I added above it lists a flange adapter, shouldn't that cover it?

Not sure what they mean by flange adapter, so it might be worthwhile to just double check on the flange and pinion.

Crozhawk
12-28-2007, 09:37 AM
Not sure what they mean by flange adapter, so it might be worthwhile to just double check on the flange and pinion.

is this something I can do without taking stuff apart?

bulldog
12-28-2007, 09:41 AM
is this something I can do without taking stuff apart?

No just phone the supplier and make sure waht they are going to ship.

my034runner
01-04-2008, 12:54 PM
Just talked to Terry @ All Pro. He said that they have 10 sets of 4.56's coming over from Japan. Well, make that seven (7). He had two already sold, and we're adding mine to our All Pro order. :rockon:

Oh, by the way, we're also going to now be All Pro distributors too!!! :guitar: :wavey:

AlexJet
01-04-2008, 02:20 PM
Just talked to Terry @ All Pro. He said that they have 10 sets of 4.56's coming over from Japan. Well, make that seven (7). He had two already sold, and we're adding mine to our All Pro order. :rockon:

Oh, by the way, we're also going to now be All Pro distributors too!!! :guitar: :wavey:

Are they still $500 for a set + installation kit?
This is front gears, am I right? Rear are from Yukon.

my034runner
01-04-2008, 02:26 PM
Are they still $500 for a set + installation kit?
This is front gears, am I right? Rear are from Yukon.



I didn't really ask about the price, I just wanted them. 4.88's are too low, and will be of no benefit to me. :deadhorse

But he did say, that when I order mine (I'm doing it through our store) to request the Precision gears for the rear and Not the Yukon's. Said that the Precision Gears are much better. :rockon:

expat
01-04-2008, 05:24 PM
I didn't really ask about the price, I just wanted them. 4.88's are too low, and will be of no benefit to me. :deadhorse

But he did say, that when I order mine (I'm doing it through our store) to request the Precision gears for the rear and Not the Yukon's. Said that the Precision Gears are much better. :rockon:


Dang I was hoping you had gone to 4.88's seeing as Andries mpg's are suffering still with 4.56's and you carry a crap load of stuff and you have the V6. I know A. has the huge tires but I thought (hoped) you might be going that way sometime soon. Oh well. Man I'm jealous of you guys getting gears. Are you going to put lockers in at the same time?

my034runner
01-04-2008, 06:45 PM
Dang I was hoping you had gone to 4.88's seeing as Andries mpg's are suffering still with 4.56's and you carry a crap load of stuff and you have the V6. I know A. has the huge tires but I thought (hoped) you might be going that way sometime soon. Oh well. Man I'm jealous of you guys getting gears. Are you going to put lockers in at the same time?



Well, I was going to consider the 4.88's, but after talking with Brett here, and Terry @ AllPro, the 4.88's would just way too low. They are not really going to give me back any mpg's with either set. Just having the engine revving at a much higher rpm than it needs to be.

With 4.10's, @ 75 mph with OD on, rpm's are @ 2447. With the 4.56's, it goes up almost 300 to 2721, and with 4.88's, it goes to 2912 rpms @ 75 mph! :eek: :eek:
That would be more than 600 rpm's @ 75 than my stock 3.73's.

Talking with Terry (I know Andries doesn't care for them) he was telling me that John (Owner of All Pro) didn't improve his mpg's when he re-geared. But, that obviously, no more gear searching, especially up hill, and much better low end. So, if 4.56's are really over kill with 33's, then 4.88's really are! :2cents :2cents :2cents :2cents :2cents

I just hope that I can get the gears in and installed before TDS in March!!

I'll have three (3) lockers!! Front, center and rear. Just need the travel now I guess! :jester:

expat
01-04-2008, 07:03 PM
Well, I was going to consider the 4.88's, but after talking with Brett here, and Terry @ AllPro, the 4.88's would just way too low. They are not really going to give me back any mpg's with either set. Just having the engine revving at a much higher rpm than it needs to be.

With 4.10's, @ 75 mph with OD on, rpm's are @ 2447. With the 4.56's, it goes up almost 300 to 2721, and with 4.88's, it goes to 2912 rpms @ 75 mph! :eek: :eek:
That would be more than 600 rpm's @ 75 than my stock 3.73's.

Talking with Terry (I know Andries doesn't care for them) he was telling me that John (Owner of All Pro) didn't improve his mpg's when he re-geared. But, that obviously, no more gear searching, especially up hill, and much better low end. So, if 4.56's are really over kill with 33's, then 4.88's really are! :2cents :2cents :2cents :2cents :2cents

I just hope that I can get the gears in and installed before TDS in March!!

I'll have three (3) lockers!! Front, center and rear. Just need the travel now I guess! :jester:


Well ok, I'm not really trying to convince you of anything but do you only drive at cruising speed? That's (personally) not the ONLY thing you need to be looking at. You might also consider what it takes to get you from a standing still to any speed, the more weight your carrying in the truck (and on top) the more work your truck is doing to get going. You should certainly improve mpg when you regear too. Don't know why John would not realise an improvement, all things being equal (how he drives and with what load). Also if your trying to get a capable rock crawler that you won't have to try so hard with (damaging rear ends etc) then higher gears are better. Then again you'll have lockers so helps a LOT.

I guess I was also of the assumption that you might go for bigger wheels and tires at some stage.

Also, your driving pattern might be different from mine. I do a lot of stop and go freeway stuff so rpms are nice. I guess in vegas you can do lots of cruising speed stuff.

Anyhow, just food for thought. I do agree that nearly 3000rpms at 75 is too high if that calculation is correct.

Its all a compromise right? :cool1:

my034runner
01-04-2008, 07:12 PM
Well OK, I'm not really trying to convince you of anything but do you only drive at cruising speed? That's (personally) not the ONLY thing you need to be looking at. You might also consider what it takes to get you from a standing still to any speed, the more weight your carrying in the truck (and on top) the more work your truck is doing to get going. You should certainly improve mpg when you re-gear too. Don't know why John would not realise an improvement, all things being equal (how he drives and with what load). Also if your trying to get a capable rock crawler that you won't have to try so hard with (damaging rear ends etc) then higher gears are better. Then again you'll have lockers so helps a LOT.

Anyhow, just food for thought. I do agree that nearly 3000rpms at 75 is too high if that calculation is correct.

Its all a compromise right? :cool1:



Brett got the chart for me. Those numbers are with my size tire, 285/75/16's.

And what Brett showed and told me, are in line with what Terry was telling me as well. I don't have much trouble now getting up to speed, but the lower 4.56's will be like day and night!! :guitar: :cool1:

bulldog
01-04-2008, 10:30 PM
I don't know what table those guys are using, but the gear ratio on your 4 spd auto in OD is 0.705.

Thus with 4.56s and 33" tires you will be around 2450 RPM with 4.56s at a true 75 MPH. With 4.88s and 33" tires you will be at 2640 RPM at a true 75 MPH.

My calcs shoed that I would be at 2370 RPM at a true 75 MPH with 4.56s (35 tires) and validating it with my GPS and dynoscan showed the calculation to be very accurate.

Remember your speedo is off when you change tire size and gearing does not correct it like on older trucks.

I posted the calc table for the 5 spd auto at a number of occasions, the 4 spd auto actually have a a higher OD ratio due to the diff ratios being lower.

Either way choose what you think will work best for you, but I'm just pointintg to some flawed math in terms of the RPMs for the true highway speed. Just my :2cents

my034runner
01-04-2008, 11:06 PM
I don't know what table those guys are using, but the gear ratio on your 4 spd auto in OD is 0.705.

Thus with 4.56s and 33" tires you will be around 2450 RPM with 4.56s at a true 75 MPH. With 4.88s and 33" tires you will be at 2640 RPM at a true 75 MPH.

My calcs showed that I would be at 2370 RPM at a true 75 MPH with 4.56s (35 tires) and validating it with my GPS and dyno scan showed the calculation to be very accurate.

Remember your speedo is off when you change tire size and gearing does not correct it like on older trucks.

I posted the calc table for the 5 spd auto at a number of occasions, the 4 spd auto actually have a a higher OD ratio due to the diff ratios being lower.

Either way choose what you think will work best for you, but I'm just pointing to some flawed math in terms of the RPMs for the true highway speed. Just my :2cents

I think going too low can be detrimental. What, I'm at 3.73 or there's about. Going to 4.88 would be like down four, isn't that overkill? :confused:

We'll see. If it becomes apparent that All Pro can't deliver in time for me to get them installed and broke in before TDS (Feb. 29th-March 2nd), I'll probably give the 4.88's a shot.:deadhorse

bulldog
01-04-2008, 11:12 PM
I think going too low can be detrimental. What, I'm at 3.73 or there's about. Going to 4.88 would be like down four, isn't that overkill? :confused:

We'll see. If it becomes apparent that All Pro can't deliver in time for me to get them installed and broke in before TDS (Feb. 29th-March 2nd), I'll probably give the 4.88's a shot.:deadhorse

You currently have 3.91s in your diffs now.

I think 4.56s will be fine if you stay with 33s. With 35s life might become a little harder again. I don't belive 4.88s will be super bad for you either.

Have Brett and Terry check their tables again in terms of true 75 MPH and RPMs for your truck in OD. My calcs show very different results from what they said. I will check my calculations again, but last I checked they were pretty much on the mark.

my034runner
01-04-2008, 11:19 PM
You currently have 3.91s in your diffs now.

I think 4.56s will be fine if you stay with 33s. With 35s life might become a little harder again. I don't believe 4.88s will be super bad for you either.

Have Brett and Terry check their tables again in terms of true 75 MPH and RPMs for your truck in OD. My calcs show very different results from what they said. I will check my calculations again, but last I checked they were pretty much on the mark.



Well, I know when I went to the 285's, my mpg definitely went down. If I go bigger, it goes lower! Besides, i:cool1: t will be a while before I do that anyway.

After I pay this thing the rest of the way off this year, I'll get a Camry Hybrid or Prius, and only take this on wheeling trips!! :rockon:

AlexJet
01-05-2008, 02:53 PM
Dang I was hoping you had gone to 4.88's seeing as Andries mpg's are suffering still with 4.56's and you carry a crap load of stuff and you have the V6. I know A. has the huge tires but I thought (hoped) you might be going that way sometime soon. Oh well. Man I'm jealous of you guys getting gears. Are you going to put lockers in at the same time?

Me - YES. I just need to check wich ones. I remember Andries mentioned that there are new versions for our platform.

AlexJet
01-05-2008, 03:55 PM
After I pay this thing the rest of the way off this year, I'll get a Camry Hybrid or Prius, and only take this on wheeling trips!! :rockon:

That is exactly what I'm planning to do, except I'm thinking of Camry and Highlander hybrid or just go with Outback.

Duc Hunter
01-07-2008, 06:11 AM
I am with Expact here, is 100-200 RPM really going to kill your MPG? That seems to be the difference between 4.56 and 4.88's? Remember too the 3.90 or 3.73's we are moving from were for 30" tires on stock wheels that as a combination, weighed nothing compared to 33 or 35" mud tires and aftermarket wheels. Then take into account my front and rear bumpers, winch, camping gear, Bud Skids when they come, 2 dogs, g/f.....we are talking 850lbs in that stuff! About 500 of which is on the vehicle at all times (skids, winch, bumpers, tires). Oh, and then there is the extra windage from our lifts, that also kills our MPG.

Personally, for the price, I think I will go 4.88's and air lockers. That seems to save a fair bit of cash over the All-Pro setup. I would like to see a comparison price wise between to two. Yes, I am too busy at work right now to build that spread sheet! So who wants to build that for those of us too lazy out here? :drink:

AlexJet
01-07-2008, 06:22 AM
Personally, for the price, I think I will go 4.88's and air lockers. That seems to save a fair bit of cash over the All-Pro setup. I would like to see a comparison price wise between to two. Yes, I am too busy at work right now to build that spread sheet! So who wants to build that for those of us too lazy out here? :drink:

As of the price, if you wait till the summer, you will be able to get local 4.56 with the price comparable to 4.88. This is what I'm planing to do. I just hope that it will be sooner then later. :lol:

Duc Hunter
01-07-2008, 06:26 AM
Get me that manufacture's number! :deadhorse


Hehehe, let's bust their balls to get them out quick! :jester:

AlexJet
01-07-2008, 06:53 AM
Get me that manufacture's number! :deadhorse


Hehehe, let's bust their balls to get them out quick! :jester:

Here you go:

Yukon Gear: info@yukongear.com

My conversation with them:

Hello,
I'm looking for a new gears fr my 4Runner. Those gears are the same as
on any 4th Gen. 4Runners (2003+), 5th Gen. Tacoma (2005+) and new FJ
Cruiser (2007+). Do you have anything available for this vehicles? The
front is IFS with 8" diff and rear is a solid axle with 8" diff.
Looking forward to hear from you soon.
Thank you.
--
Alex

Alex,
At this time, there are not gears available for the front differential.
We are currently working on the new designs; however it will most likely
be Spring until we get them into production.
Wish I had better news,
Kevin

Hello Kevin,
As I understand you are working on front gears and they are suppose to
be out Spring 2008. What ratios are you working on?
What about the rear? Do you have them? What options are for the rear?
Thank you.
--
Alex

Alex,
We are going to produce 4.56, 4.88, and 5.29 gears for the front. If
your rear end is the non-locking design, then there are 4.56-5.29 ratios
available for it currently.
Kevin

Hello Kevin,
4.56 is sounds good for me.
I have non-locked rear solid axle.
--
Alex

Alex,
No problem, the part number for those gears is YG TV6-456
Kevin

Hello Kevin,
Do you have any news for Toyota society? We're all waiting for your gears.
I have a friend, who is running '07 FJ and he want 4.56 gears as well.
--
Alex

Alex,
The 4.88's for the front have recently become available. The 5.29's will
be next, and the 4.56's will be the third one to be released. If I had to take a
guess on the 4.56's, I would put them in late spring.
Kevin

expat
01-07-2008, 07:51 PM
Interesting replies from Kevin.

I wonder what the percentage of sales would be like, between each of the different models? 5.29's - I wonder who will be buying them and what the application will be. I guess soemthing like MissFJ's slid axle FJ with the humongous tires. Can't see that happening on the 4R anytime soon.

bulldog
01-07-2008, 09:59 PM
Interesting replies from Kevin.

I wonder what the percentage of sales would like like bewteen each of the different models? 5.29's - I wonder who will be buying them and what the application will be. I guess soemthing like MissFJ's slid axle FJ with the humongous tires. Can't see that happening on the 4R anytime soon.

I don't see the need for 5.29s on the 120 platform fro the V6 or V8s, the tires will be too big for IFS anyway. I can only guess it will be the 4 cyl Tacos.

I think 4.56s will sell much better than 5.29s since most vehicles on the new platform have much larger engines than previous platforms.

AlexJet
01-08-2008, 09:54 AM
I don't see the need for 5.29s on the 120 platform fro the V6 or V8s, the tires will be too big for IFS anyway. I can only guess it will be the 4 cyl Tacos.

I think 4.56s will sell much better than 5.29s since most vehicles on the new platform have much larger engines than previous platforms.

:iagree 200% with you. The same I told Kevin and he agrees that 4.11 is for 33", 4.56 for 35", 4.88 for 37" and 5.29 will be mostly for 37"+ tires; heavy loads will slide the table step down. I don't think anyone will run 39"-40" tires on 4Runner or even FJ. Unfortunatelly 4.11 is only in plans for design, so no ETA for them. Kevin also mentioned that marketing department most likely compared our platform to the "big 3", that's why 5.29 comes before 4.56. Ford, GM trucks can be easier converted for bigger tires and 5.29 is more for them ratio.

toyotawagon
01-22-2008, 11:30 AM
http://toyota.off-road.com/toyota/Product+Releases/488-Ring-and-Pinion-for-New-Toyota-FJ-Cruiser-Taco/ArticleStandard/Article/detail/476369?contextCategoryId=33268

http://www.ringpinion.biz/product_info.php?cPath=22_37_484&products_id=2522&osCsid=953215b589bccfd698ea4c7a5b39781a

toyotawagon
01-22-2008, 04:56 PM
The rear gears are fairly standard, but will also need a new pinion flange. The front is a new frontend. These just came out, check out the link:


http://www.ringpinion.biz/product_info.php?cPath=22_37_484&products_id=2522&osCsid=9f07f84d6a62e53df4f275b62096f50a

toyotawagon
01-24-2008, 01:16 PM
WWW.RINGPINION.BIZ HAS THEM

AlexJet
01-26-2008, 05:23 PM
There is no 4.56 yet :(

Dealmaker
01-27-2008, 01:26 PM
Demello is advertising 4.56 on his website.

There is no 4.56 yet :(

AlexJet
01-28-2008, 06:33 AM
Demello is advertising 4.56 on his website.

Front is All-Pro import JDM version
Rear is Yukon.

There is no local front yet. JDM cost 3x more then local.

toyotawagon
01-28-2008, 09:22 AM
Why bother changing to 4.10, not very much difference there in comparison to the cost. 4.88 is only about 6% lower than 4.56.

Crozhawk
01-28-2008, 09:29 AM
Why bother changing to 4.10, not very much difference there in comparison to the cost. 4.88 is only about 6% lower than 4.56.

:iagree ...I think it'll be 4:88's for me.

AlexJet
01-28-2008, 09:35 AM
:iagree ...I think it'll be 4:88's for me.

My :2cents , but 4.88 with your 34 will be too low.

Crozhawk
01-28-2008, 09:41 AM
My :2cents , but 4.88 with your 34 will be too low.

I disagree. I would rather be too low anyway than too high primarily because of how I drive my truck. And knowing myself, the 34's will also probably only last me for so long before I go bigger. I'd like to only regear once ....I know I'll change tires eventually

toyotawagon
01-28-2008, 09:58 AM
too low? What is this based off of? I have run 4.88s with a 4.7 v8 and 305/70/16 tires with excellent results, in fact I even commuted that way 30 miles each way 70 mph. I then put on 315/75/16's and it still performs very well.


My :2cents , but 4.88 with your 34 will be too low.

AlexJet
01-28-2008, 10:34 AM
too low? What is this based off of? I have run 4.88s with a 4.7 v8 and 305/70/16 tires with excellent results, in fact I even commuted that way 30 miles each way 70 mph. I then put on 315/75/16's and it still performs very well.

As I mentioned this is my personal point of view based on my experience and driving habbits. Yours can be completly different.

AlexJet
01-28-2008, 10:35 AM
I disagree. I would rather be too low anyway than too high primarily because of how I drive my truck. And knowing myself, the 34's will also probably only last me for so long before I go bigger. I'd like to only regear once ....I know I'll change tires eventually

I see your point Dave. In your case I'd definetly regear and if you're planning of upsizing the tires and getting more weight on the truck this may be a good solution.
For me I thought 4.56 should be right on, but you have to decide yourself which ratio will be better for you.

Crozhawk
01-28-2008, 11:02 AM
wouldn't it be nice if you could just buy it from the factory and select ratios as a factory option

AlexJet
01-28-2008, 11:06 AM
wouldn't it be nice if you could just buy it from the factory and select ratios as a factory option

This will be the best option in the list. Dave, could you point Toyota Top Managment to this post?

toyotawagon
01-28-2008, 11:37 AM
Yeah, and sliders and 35" tires. Oh and front and rear lockers. Dont see any of it happening.

bulldog
01-28-2008, 02:16 PM
OK guys can we get back tothe thread topic, who makes and sells gears for these trucks.

Seems like 4.88s are available from the linkied business and ALL pro has 4.56s (from time to time) OEM sourced.

toyotawagon
01-28-2008, 03:00 PM
4.56 here (http://www.ringpinion.biz/index.php?cPath=22_37_484&osCsid=4e630d61bc60afdc96ce8520a34a2bd1)

Nobody make 4.56 aftermarket yet. 4.88 was made because it takes several hundred sets for an aftermarket gear to be made, and it fits the widest range of tire sizes.

AlexJet
01-28-2008, 04:42 PM
4.56 here (http://www.ringpinion.biz/index.php?cPath=22_37_484&osCsid=4e630d61bc60afdc96ce8520a34a2bd1)

$$$$ :(....

toyotawagon
01-28-2008, 04:45 PM
$$$$ :(....

will be some 4.56 in a few months for less $$$ when aftermarket are available. until now it cost another $400 to save 150 rpm on the highway

my034runner
01-28-2008, 10:56 PM
4.56 here (http://www.ringpinion.biz/index.php?cPath=22_37_484&osCsid=4e630d61bc60afdc96ce8520a34a2bd1)

Nobody make 4.56 aftermarket yet. 4.88 was made because it takes several hundred sets for an aftermarket gear to be made, and it fits the widest range of tire sizes.



$630.00??!! :eek: :eek: :shocked: :shocked:

expat
07-17-2008, 01:39 PM
will be some 4.56 in a few months for less $$$ when aftermarket are available.

You have some insider info on this...it is 6 months since you posted this

toyotawagon
07-17-2008, 03:22 PM
Yes, 4.56 thick gears. Designed to fit without changing the carrier on trucks that have 3.73 now. Also fits arb 121.

http://www.justdifferentials.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=22_37_484&products_id=2579

my034runner
07-17-2008, 03:57 PM
Yes, 4.56 thick gears. Designed to fit without changing the carrier on trucks that have 3.73 now. Also fits arb 121.

http://www.justdifferentials.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=22_37_484&products_id=2579



What if I already have the RD 111 (I do, sitting at home), am I screwed?? :confused1

bulldog
07-17-2008, 04:01 PM
What if I already have the RD 111 (I do, sitting at home), am I screwed?? :confused1

No just buy the Toyota 4.56 front gear for $630 instead of $300 for the thick cut aftermarket ones. Still a lot cheaper than buying a $800 locker.

Jason and I both run the RD111 with the Toyota gears.

toyotawagon
07-17-2008, 04:01 PM
Then you can run the 4.88 as they are designed to fit the rd111.
http://www.justdifferentials.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=22_37_484&products_id=2522

Or if afraid of 4.88 you could sell your locker and buy the rd121. Or you can run the OE toyota 4.56 gears that cost $630



What if I already have the RD 111 (I do, sitting at home), am I screwed?? :confused1

my034runner
07-17-2008, 04:59 PM
Then you can run the 4.88 as they are designed to fit the rd111.
http://www.justdifferentials.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=22_37_484&products_id=2522

Or if afraid of 4.88 you could sell your locker and buy the rd121. Or you can run the OE Toyota 4.56 gears that cost $630


Not afraid of the 4.88's, they're just too low I think. :cool1:

expat
07-17-2008, 10:39 PM
Ok, so now the shopping list looks like this for the 4th gen with 3.73 (V8) currently

FRONT
4.56 NITRO (THICK) RATIO RING & PINION SET $299.99
MASTER INSTALL KIT $319 or MIN INSTAL KIT $89.99

or

FRONT
4.56 TOYOTA RATIO RING AND PINION SET $629
MASTER INSTALL KIT $319 or MIN INSTAL KIT $89.99



REAR
4.56 YUKON RATIO RING AND PINION $190
MASTER INSTALL KIT $


Nitro Gears http://www.justdifferentials.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=22_37_484&products_id=2579&zenid=e8dcad1bdf09a0f3a4c2a48e4ee00825
Toyota Gears http://www.justdifferentials.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=22_37_484&products_id=2523&zenid=e8dcad1bdf09a0f3a4c2a48e4ee00825
Yukon Gears

damn..site seems to be down..I'll complete this later

my034runner
07-17-2008, 11:04 PM
Thanks Mark, for putting the list together. :D

bulldog
07-17-2008, 11:09 PM
For the front Toyota gears you will need a 3.91 carrier or ARB locker (111). A FJC MT carrier or 03-04 V6 carrier would work, some Tacoma carriers will also work.

The thick cut 4.56 gears will work fine on your existing 3.73 carrier, and you can always get the RD121 ARB locker later.

expat
07-17-2008, 11:17 PM
The shopping list looks like this for the 4th gen with 3.90 (V6) currently

FRONT
4.56 NITRO (THICK) RATIO RING & PINION SET $299.99
MASTER INSTALL KIT $319 or MIN INSTAL KIT $89.99
ARB LOCKER RD111 $800 or TOYOTA CARRIER $

or

FRONT
4.56 TOYOTA RATIO RING AND PINION SET $629
MASTER INSTALL KIT $319 or MIN INSTAL KIT $89.99



REAR
4.56 YUKON RATIO RING AND PINION $190
MASTER INSTALL KIT $


Nitro Gears http://www.justdifferentials.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=22_37_484&products_id=2579&zenid=e8dcad1bdf09a0f3a4c2a48e4ee00825
Toyota Gears http://www.justdifferentials.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=22_37_484&products_id=2523&zenid=e8dcad1bdf09a0f3a4c2a48e4ee00825
Yukon Gears

damn..site seems to be down..I'll complete this later

and I see Andries beat me to it

AlexJet
07-20-2008, 03:51 PM
I got aftermarket 4.56 and will be installing them next week.

07 Elephant
07-21-2008, 06:04 AM
I got aftermarket 4.56 and will be installing them next week.

Great news Alex. We can hardly wait for updates and pics.

RocKrawler
07-23-2008, 08:45 AM
I'm getting ready to order my 4.56 thick gears for the RD121 I already have installed in my FJ. If you need the OEM Toyota 4.56 for the RD111 we have them in stock for $599 (saving $30 over the other guys)

Canyon.4R
07-23-2008, 10:24 AM
Quick edit to Mark's "shopping list" for V8 trucks:


FRONT
4.56 NITRO (THICK) RATIO RING & PINION SET $299.99
MASTER INSTALL KIT $319 or MIN INSTAL KIT $89.99
ARB LOCKER RD121 $800 (not required)

or

FRONT
4.56 TOYOTA RATIO RING AND PINION SET $629
MASTER INSTALL KIT $319 or MIN INSTAL KIT $89.99
ARB LOCKER RD111 $800 or OEM 3.90 carrier required

REAR
4.56 YUKON RATIO RING AND PINION $190
MASTER INSTALL KIT $

Nitro Gears http://www.justdifferentials.com/ind...a48e4ee0 0825
Toyota Gears http://www.justdifferentials.com/ind...a48e4ee0 0825
Yukon Gears

Teampez
12-16-2008, 10:00 PM
Yeah on the older gen 4.88 was the common one, but with the new V6/V8 and auto boxes 4.56 makes a lot more sense. A lot more power and better gearbox ratios make a big difference. 4.88 will be too short unless you run min 35" tires.



this right here, is what Ive been looking for, for two days now, lol seems to be closer to stock also, trying to keep something of decent fuel mileage, lmao