Shrockworks Bumper Accessories

[Joel]

Winch?
http://www.warn.com/truck/winches/src/9.0Rc.shtml

Lights?
http://gforceautosports.com/lightforce240blitz.htm

Nick was talking about the hood barely not hitting the top bar, I hope that doesn't mean lights aren't going to work on the top of the bumper.

What is everyone else going with?
Plate rather than winch?
No upper lights?

[Jared]

Winch?
http://www.warn.com/truck/winches/src/9.0Rc.shtml

Lights?
http://gforceautosports.com/lightforce240blitz.htm

Nick was talking about the hood barely not hitting the top bar, I hope that doesn't mean lights aren't going to work on the top of the bumper.

What is everyone else going with?
Plate rather than winch?
No upper lights?

I would think that lights would stick out forward, rather than back towards the hood. I obviously haven't seen the design, but I would think that a professional shop would at least test fit a couple of lights to their mount points to make sure there is some clearance.

[Tucson T4R]

:iagree

That would be the winch I would want (9000lbs with synthetic line). Where would that control box be mounted if the winch is being installed tightly inside the bumper??

I personaly don't plan to mount additional lights on the bumper. With the PIAA lights mounted in the bumper I will have enough light for my needs.

[Jared]

Wow, that's an expensive winch. I don't know if I could handle a $1300 winch. I was thinking about that one for my bumper, but I will probably have to rethink that. Just get a different winch and add a synthetic line to it (if it can handle it).

[bulldog]

I will definitely add a winch, with syn line and hawse fairlead. I am still trying to decide between the Warn M8000 or XP9.5. FOr some reason I prefer the XP, but it is quite a bit more $$$.

I would not get the Rc winch as it only takes 50' of rope. That is fine for most rock crawl competitions,but seems a bit short for rel world situtions where anchor points might be far away or you need to double up the line. 100' of rope sounds like a better idea to me.

I don't know where the control box would fit, probably ontop of the bumper somewhere. Will have to ask the good folks at SW. I know I discussed it with Jim initially and he said it shouldn't be an issue.

Driving lights is later on my list. The 4R lights are pretty good, and you can't really use the LF lights on road on most of the roads I travel. I will probably look at them later, but go for the 170s as I saw the 240s on Lance's truck and it looks like sat dishes in person. Very nice but too big for my taste.

[Cruiserhead]

I think the 8K is fine. My friend Alvaro has a heavy 80 series w/ a Warn 8K and it got him out of stucks on the Rubicon fine.

If you are mudding, then yeah go big. Even on my 80, I plan on going 8K/syn line
control box will be easy, there is plenty of room just in front of the radiator area or off to the sides. Even inside the engine bay

The lightforces do angle back towards the body some- so clearance may be an issue- might have to make mounting tabs or something...

This might help
http://adventurersworkshop.com/images/170%20dimensions_small.jpg
edit: this is the 170

[Tucson T4R]

I will definitely add a winch, with syn line and hawse fairlead. I am still trying to decide between the Warn M8000 or XP9.5. FOr some reason I prefer the XP, but it is quite a bit more $$$.

I would not get the Rc winch as it only takes 50' of rope. That is fine for most rock crawl competitions,but seems a bit short for rel world situtions where anchor points might be far away or you need to double up the line. 100' of rope sounds like a better idea to me.


Good point Andries, I didn't catch the shorter rope length. 100 footer is definitley a priority. I'd go for the XP9.5. :-)

[bulldog]

Good point Andries, I didn't catch the shorter rope length. 100 footer is definitley a priority. I'd go for the XP9.5. :-)
Both the M8000 and XP9.5 are good units. It just seems the XP is much better sealed against water and dust than the M, apart from a 25% stronger motor. Problem is it weighs 13lbs or so more and cost almost twice as much.

[bulldog]

The driving lights seems like an interesting issue, not sure if it really is an issue given that the point that sticks out is a bit lower than the hoop. Guess Nick can just check the clearance from the driving light mount to where the grill opens.

[expat]

Warn 9.5XP winch (http://www.gowarn.com/9.5xp-winch.asp?gclid=CMTv3Kr7_YQCFS3TJAod9ESnDg) 6hp ~$900 87lbs

Warn M8000 (http://www.gowarn.com/m8000-winch.asp) 4.6hp ~$750 78lbs

Warn XD9000i (http://www.gowarn.com/xd9000i-winch.asp) 4.8hp ~$800 85lbs

Warn XD9000 (http://www.gowarn.com/xd9000-winch.asp) 4.6hp ~$750 78lbs

[Joel]

http://www.gowarn.com/m8000WSL-winch.asp

$599 w/ roller.

[expat]

http://www.gowarn.com/m8000WSL-winch.asp

$599 w/ roller.

Pity its only a "today" sale...nice price!

[Cruiserhead]

check w/ SW to see if the integrated winches will fit, I suspect not.

[Joel]

Integrated?

[bulldog]

Integrated?

Controller pack is part of the winch assembly, not a seperate pack that canbe mounted on top of the bumper. The XD9000i is integated, while the M8000 is not.

[Tucson T4R]

Does anyone know if there is a model of the Warn 9000lb winch that comes with a synthetic line? To buy a new winch with a steel line and then pay $500 plus for a replacement synthetic line doesn't make much sense. The only winch I saw on the Warn website with a syn line was th rock crawler model and that one only has a 50' line. Too short for my needs.

[Jared]

Nope, so far that's the only one that comes with a synthetic line. I would make sure though that before you put a synth line on any winch that it can take a synth line. Synth lines insulate the drum which can lead to overheating of the drum and motor.

[Joel]

Holy crap!
http://www.gowarn.com/synthetic-winch-rope.asp

[Cruiserhead]

nope, syn line is going to be an added expense. It's like the whole aftermarket wheel thing; or car stereos

You prob wont be able to fit more than 80' syn b/c it's fatter than the steel cable. you can use the steel line as extension in the recovery kit or sell it- someone will buy brand new 100' line on the cheap.

if you are going to do long pulls, the type of syn line matters b/c the drum generates alot of heat. they sell line that is more heat resistant towards the drum.

[expat]

Holy crap!
http://www.gowarn.com/synthetic-winch-rope.asp

Your not wrong! It is freaking expensive, one that I am yet to be convinced of needing for my use.

Syn. line is very nice to have, but if money is an issue, don't bother. Steel line is just fine especially for the amount of time most of us will use winching.

[bulldog]

Holy crap!
http://www.gowarn.com/synthetic-winch-rope.asp

Warn is crazy with their syn line pricing. I'm looking at Amsteel, etc. The biggest reason why I want to get syn is to reduce weight against the steel line and also the hawse instead of roller fairlead. ALso I don't have to worry about rust, then (reason why I prefer the XP).

BUt Mark has got it right, we wont use these things often. I will probably take some time before I get a winch anyway. Still some more research on the lines for me.

Another thing will probably be to upgrade the battery terminals for a proper connection to the winch lines. Mine are maxed out wiht the secodn batt already. Probably will get some military style connectors.

I'm going o tak my time with selecting and setting up these things, will probably save some good $$$ that way.

[Cruiserhead]

the single largest advantage syn line has over steel is that it does not store energy.

If a steel line breaks, you have a whip that can slice a person in half. Syn line drops to the ground. I think it's more likely for syn to break than steel, but syn is pricey b/c of the safety & weight advantage.

*having said that, I would have no problem using a steel line winch at all. Just use the proper protocol w/ using any winch.

[bulldog]

the single largest advantage syn line has over steel is that it does not store energy.

If a steel line breaks, you have a whip that can slice a person in half. Syn line drops to the ground. I think it's more likely for syn to break than steel, but syn is pricey b/c of the safety & weight advantage.

*having said that, I would have no problem using a steel line winch at all. Just use the proper protocol w/ using any winch.

Forgot about that advantage.

Personally I will just save up to get the stuff I really want (personal choice). Knowing myself I will probably kink the steel line on the first use anyway, other people will obviously do better with it than me. If taken care of I believe steel will last longer than syn lines.

Besides one of you guys can buy my steel line and roller fairlead at a great price in the future.

[expat]

[QUOTE=bulldog] Knowing myself I will probably kink the steel line on the first use anyway, QUOTE]

lol - i was thinking the same thing (about me, not you ;) )

[ToyFamily]

I have 6" Hella lights on top right now and there is about 1 1/4" clearance when opening the hood. And there are light mounting holes. The reason the Center hoop wasn't fitting is the height of the tube. It was designed around Warn and Ramsey winches, both have been fitted. Only non integrated sol. only will fit but 9500lb winch will fit.
Nick

[Joel]

:cool1:

More pictures? :D

Also, what winches will (or won't) fit?

[bulldog]

Nick thx for the info.

Will have to check the Lightforce vs the Hellas specs to see if they can fit.

So I assume M8000 and XP 9.5 will fit no issues? Is the control box mounted ontop of the bumper then?

[ToyFamily]

I've put a warn XP9.5 non integrated and 9.5 Ramsey non integrated in there and by measurements it looks like the Ramsey 12,000 would also fit.

We can get both Warn and Ramsey.

You can get a Patriot Profile 9.5 w/ synthethic rope, aluminum fairlead and 12ft sealed cotroller OR WIRELESS REMOTE.

or

The REP series winches are a good winch made in USA and reasonably priced

I've run warn before and they are good, they've made a good rep. Since I've been around Ramsey I've been impressed with their winches and the stand out is the controls. I've run Ramsey both in competition and on the trail.

here's a link:
http://www.ramsey.com/winches/index.html

we can find out some numbers if you guys are interested.

Nick

[shrockworks]

I've become a big fan of the Ramsey winches. There are a lot of little details in the quality of construction I've noticed. It seems to me that Warn has moved more towards aesthetics and whiz-bang marketing features.

I'm currently running a Ramsey Patriot 9500 w/ Synthetic Rope, Aluminum fairlead & wireless remote. The Al fairlead and synth rope save a lot of weight, no mangled hands from broken strands and no getting cut in half by a broken steel cable. It's a very very sweet winch. Not cheap, but a very good value for what you get. Its about $1250.00.


http://www.ramsey.com/winches/patriot9500_synthetic.html

http://www.ramsey.com/img2/winches/red/patriot9500_synthetic.jpg



The Patriot Profile 9500 is the same winch with a steel cable, a roller fairlead, and wired remote. This would be a very solid choice. It's about $825.00.

http://www.ramsey.com/winches/patriotprofile9500.html

http://www.ramsey.com/img2/winches/red/patriotprofile9500.jpg



For a really great value for occasional use, you cant beat their REP 8.5E. It's the only winch in this price range that is made in the USA. Most are made in China. It's about $450.

http://www.ramsey.com/winches/rep85e.html

http://www.ramsey.com/img2/winches/rep85e.jpg

[Tucson T4R]

[QUOTE=shrockworks]I've become a big fan of the Ramsey winches. There are a lot of little details in the quality of construction I've noticed. It seems to me that Warn had moved toward aesthetics and whiz-bang marketing features.

I'm currently running a Ramsey Patriot 9500 w/ Synthetic Rope, Aluminum fairlead & wireless remote. The Al fairlead and synth rope save a lot of weight, no mangled hands from broken strands and no getting cut in half by a broken steel cable. It's a very very sweet winch. Not cheap, but a very good value for what you get. Its about $1250.00.


http://www.ramsey.com/winches/patriot9500_synthetic.html

http://www.ramsey.com/img2/winches/red/patriot9500_synthetic.jpg
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Jim, That is one sweet set up! The 9000lb winch with 100' of syn line is just what I was looking for. I have traditionaly been a Warn customer but with your endorsement and the exact features I want, I'm interested.

Would it be possible for Shrockworks to obtain and include this winch, mounted in the bumper (or at least shipped with) when my bumper is shipped out? Mayber sliders too , if they are ready. :lol:

[bulldog]

I'm currently running a Ramsey Patriot 9500 w/ Synthetic Rope, Aluminum fairlead & wireless remote. The Al fairlead and synth rope save a lot of weight, no mangled hands from broken strands and no getting cut in half by a broken steel cable. It's a very very sweet winch. Not cheap, but a very good value for what you get. Its about $1250.00.


http://www.ramsey.com/winches/patriot9500_synthetic.html


Would this one fit on the bumper though?? I like that it all comes shipped. I might have to look at Ramsey a bit more then. I like the idea of a remote control (just have to keep it in the 4R and not leave it at home).

[shrockworks]

The remote is one thing I really like about the Ramsey. It has very thick beefy pins on the wired control, and it is a std trailer connector. I had one of those tiny pins break on a Warn one once and I was completely screwed for the rest of the trip. I've also lost a wired remote, forgot them at home and had one stolen. The little wireless thing you can stick in an ashtray and it's always there, plus you still have a wired one for backup.

If enough people are interested, I can probably get some good pricing on the winches and can ship them with the bumpers.

The one picture wouldnt fit, but the same winch w/o the integrated solenoid will.

[Tucson T4R]

OK guys, start a list! I want one of these puppies!


http://www.ramsey.com/winches/patriot9500_synthetic.html

1. Tucson T4R (Brad)

[expat]

OK guys, start a list! I want one of these puppies!


http://www.ramsey.com/winches/patri..._synthetic.html

1. Tucson T4R (Brad)


Link doesn't seem to work. Too costly for me right now anyhow. :cry:

[bulldog]

The remote is one thing I really like about the Ramsey. It has very thick beefy pins on the wired control, and it is a std trailer connector. I had one of those tiny pins break on a Warn one once and I was completely screwed for the rest of the trip. I've also lost a wired remote, forgot them at home and had one stolen. The little wireless thing you can stick in an ashtray and it's always there, plus you still have a wired one for backup.

If enough people are interested, I can probably get some good pricing on the winches and can ship them with the bumpers.

The one picture wouldnt fit, but the same winch w/o the integrated solenoid will.

I'll need to check it out a bit first. I wasn't planning on fitting the winch till later this year. Need to think about that one first.

[Roams001]

http://www.ramsey.com/img2/winches/red/patriot9500_synthetic.jpg


Count me in.

[my034runner]

Hey Jim,
I got a Warn MX 8000 for free here at my store (took it off of an older 4Runner trade in), and was wondering if it will work on my new ShrockWorks Bumper!!!! :)

It has the steel cable of course, but if you let me know if it will work, I'll buy some Amsteel Syn. Rope for it. You can't beat the price! :D FREE!
But if it won't work in the bumper, I'll see if I can sell it and get a few $$ out of it, and maybe put that down towards a newer one.
Thanks in advance Jim.
Robert :devil:

[shrockworks]

That will work fine!

[my034runner]

That will work fine!


It will? Cool!! Thanks Jim. I was hoping that it would, but I wasn't sure, this being an older Warn winch and all. But if you say it will, you're the man, you'd know. Will there be clear instructions that a mechanical dummy like me can follow? I'll be assisting with the install, so it would be nice to know a little bit about what I'm doing. :guns: :shocked: :drink: :drink:

[TOYOTABOONE]

Hey guy's, check these guys out for synthetic winch line

http://www.rockstomper.com/catalog/recovery/ropes.htm

[ToyFamily]

Does anyone know where to find a Variable Load Flasher for LED lights or at least the minimum draw reqd. for the stock flasher. We know several alternatives we might use for ourselves but don't expect you to have to do them on your rig. The problem is the LED doesn't draw enough when it's working so the Flasher is tricked into thinking there is a bulb out....I have been all over the net and haven't found a replacement for the 4runner.....I found several just not this vehicle. Otherwise we may have to ditch the LED.

Nick

[AlexJet]

Does anyone know where to find a Variable Load Flasher for LED lights or at least the minimum draw reqd. for the stock flasher. We know several alternatives we might use for ourselves but don't expect you to have to do them on your rig. The problem is the LED doesn't draw enough when it's working so the Flasher is tricked into thinking there is a bulb out....I have been all over the net and haven't found a replacement for the 4runner.....I found several just not this vehicle. Otherwise we may have to ditch the LED.

Nick

Try this out:
www.autolumination.com

[bulldog]

Hey guy's, check these guys out for synthetic winch line

http://www.rockstomper.com/catalog/recovery/ropes.htm

Nice find!

[shrockworks]

It seems there is a Daytime Running Light flasher and a non-DRL flasher. The one at that link is the non-DRL flasher.....

[my034runner]

Nice find!


I second that, I'll be getting some Amsteel from them, they seem reasonable.

[expat]

Jim,

With your bars, are most people (eg Xterra guys) having a hole drilled on the top of the bumper to accept an antenna (CB) or are they requesting a tab welded on one of the hoops? What's most common?

While I now use a magnetic mount I still require a bullbar mount for my cb, and one for a fibreglass whip pole for dune driving. I'm also considering the need for a mount for the Ham radio antenna but it seems lots of people just use a glass mount - I'll have to research this more. Have you any comments on this also?

Thanks
Mark

[ToyFamily]

if it's something like a tab welded on we can USUALLY accomadate, depending on where, and what your looking for......we stock these and if requested can probably weld them on at your request for additional cost. I'm sure I'll talk to Jim or he'll chime in about this and let you know.

[ksneubec]

I'd be interested in the mid-range winch included with the bar. I'd also be interested in that welded tab for a CB radio antenna mount.

[Vegas Runner]

One of the features of interest to me would be a front hitch receiver. Would this be possible to incorporate with this bumper? Ideas?

[expat]

One of the features of interest to me would be a front hitch receiver. Would this be possible to incorporate with this bumper? Ideas?

You'd have to have some pretty interesting drop bar I would think to use the tow hitch using this bullbar. Think of the difference in height between the front bumper and the rear. You could certainly weld or bolt anything with some customisation tho.

[expat]

I'd be interested in the mid-range winch included with the bar. I'd also be interested in that welded tab for a CB radio antenna mount.


Include your needs in your order to them via email.

I have asked for several "specialised" options in my order.

[Vegas Runner]

You'd have to have some pretty interesting drop bar I would think to use the tow hitch using this bullbar. Think of the difference in height between the front bumper and the rear. You could certainly weld or bolt anything with some customisation tho.

Right, I need to receiver to come out at a good height. I also dont want it protruding out in front of the bumper If I can avoid it. I don't want to give up the winch either. Tough requirements. I may have to wait to see one of these bumpers so I con more carefully consider my options. Also I want it to look as clean as possible. I am not a big fan of something that looks like it is scabbed on.

[my034runner]

Right, I need to receiver to come out at a good height. I also don't want it protruding out in front of the bumper If I can avoid it. I don't want to give up the winch either. Tough requirements. I may have to wait to see one of these bumpers so I con more carefully consider my options. Also I want it to look as clean as possible. I am not a big fan of something that looks like it is scabbed on.

When I get mine, and get it mounted, you can drop by and check it out and see what you think. :rockon:

[Vegas Runner]

Yes I most definately will. Thank You! I am also going to try to attend the BBB and Mojave run if at all possible. Unfortunately I cannot commit to either now but I am anxious to meet everyone and see the various mods.

[my034runner]

Yes I most definitely will. Thank You! I am also going to try to attend the BBB and Mojave run if at all possible. Unfortunately I cannot commit to either now but I am anxious to meet everyone and see the various mods.


Don't forget to post your name on the trip planning threads when you know if you can go. :bigok:

[Vegas Runner]

Will do. I dont want to post before I am reasonable sure.

[my034runner]

Will do. I don't want to post before I am reasonable sure.

That's cool. :bigok:

[my034runner]

That will work fine!


Hey Jim, so the MX 8000 Warn will work you said. But what about a Warn XD9000i winch? There's a guy on another board selling that winch, recovery kit, and two (2) Red tops and the roller for $750.00. First, it's an "i" integrated, will that even work? And do you think that that is a good price on a 5 year old Warn XD9000i?
Thanks
Robert

[AlexJet]

Does anyone know T-Max winches? I was told today that they are similar to Warn, except 30-40% cheaper.

[bulldog]

Does anyone know T-Max winches? I was told today that they are similar to Warn, except 30-40% cheaper.
I have not heard good things about them. Check Pirate and Mud baords.

[AlexJet]

I was today at my local 4x4 shop. They had Open House and were giving out EW-9000 for CAD599. I thought it’s too cheap for a good winch.

[shrockworks]

OK, here is the pricing on the accessories and winch recomendations:


LIGHTS (for in the bumper):

PIAA 510 4" Super White Driving - $199.00
PIAA 510 4" Ion Crystal Fog - $199.00
http://www.piaa.com/Lamps/Lamp-pages/510.html


LIGHTS (for on top of the bumper):

PIAA 520 Black Ion Crystal Driving 6.25" $199.00
http://www.piaa.com/Lamps/Lamp-pages/520.html

PIAA 520 SMR Black SuperWhite Driving 6.25" $199.00
http://www.piaa.com/Lamps/Lamp-pages/520smr.html


WINCHES:

#1 Good
Entry level occational use winch. Made in USA!
Ramsey REP 8500
$449.00
http://www.ramsey.com/winches/rep85e.html


#2 Better.
Industrial quality winch.
Ramsey Patriot Profile 8000
$698.00
http://www.ramsey.com/winches/patriotprofile8000.html


#3 Better & Stronger.
Industrial quality winch.
Ramsey Patriot Profile 9500
$848.00
http://www.ramsey.com/winches/patriotprofile9500.html

#4 Best & Strongest of the bunch, plus...
- Convience of wireless remote
- Safety, reduced weight and improved approach angle of Synth rope and Alum. fairled
Ramsey Patriot Profile 9500 with synthetic rope, Aluminum fairlead, Wireless remote
$1249.00 (this winch is a ShrockWorks exclusive)
Like this but detached solenoid: http://www.ramsey.com/winches/patriot9500_synthetic.html


Winch Accessories:
- 100' 5/16 Synthetic Cable w/ chafe guard - $159.00 http://www.shrockworks.com/Forum_Images/synthetic-winchrope.jpg
- Aluminum Fairlead - $49.00 http://www.shrockworks.com/Forum_Images/ShrockWorks-Aluminum-Fairlead.jpg
- Aluminum Fairlead - Black Anodized $59.00 http://www.shrockworks.com/Forum_Images/ShrockWorks-Aluminum-Fairlead.jpg
- Wireless Remote - $89.00 http://www.ramsey.com/automotive/accessories.html (scroll to bottom)
- Remote socket relocation - $29.00 http://www.shrockworks.com/images/nisbumper/nisbump04.jpg



Clevis Shackles (fits tabs on bumper)

3/4" Clevis shackle, Black Powder coat, Yellow Zinc Chromate Pin - $32.00 / pair http://www.shrockworks.com/images/nisbumper/shackle.jpg

[bulldog]

You are going to bankrupt me :D

Till how late can we call you, since a lot of us are on the west coast?

[shrockworks]

You are going to bankrupt me :D

LOL :rotflmao:


I'm here until 7PM central. about 10more minutes left today.

[ksneubec]

I'm assuming that we can purchase these items directly from Shrockworks then?
Also, have you quoted a bar price yet? I think I saw $889 at t4r.org- if so, is that accurate, and does that include hoops?

[shrockworks]

I'm assuming that we can purchase these items directly from Shrockworks then?
Also, have you quoted a bar price yet? I think I saw $889 at t4r.org- if so, is that accurate, and does that include hoops?

Yes all above is available from us. $889 is the correct price now for the bumper. (It was $859 for most of the early orders, but went up a bit for new orders.)


Std bumper $889.00 includes:

Black powder coat,
center hoop,
headlight guard hoops, splash guards (pieces by tires, covers washer bottle etc.)
stanless steel skid plate,
turn signals,
place to mount 4" aftermarket fogs (PIAA 510)

[expat]

Probably another one of my dumb questions, but would it be valuable to list (consolidate) all the options on either this thread, or another brand new thread? I wonder if everyone knows what options are available and what others are considering or have negotiated.

For instance...

Powdercoating color
No hoop
Center hoop
Center hoop and side hoops
Antenna mounts (either tabs welded to hoop or hole/s drilled into top of flat bar)
Holes for mounting driving lights on top of bar
Tie down for fluffy dice (are you paying attention!)
Additional tow hooks?
Winches, ropes, hawse, remotes, driving/fog lights etc (posted in other thread)

Do you get what I mean? Have I left anything out? Is anyone ordering anything else outside of these items that might be of use to others? Does or has Shrockworks offer/ed any other custom fab work or accessories on other vehicles that we might use on our bullbars?

[expat]

Yes all above is available from us. $889 is the correct price now for the bumper. (It was $859 for most of the early orders, but went up a bit for new orders.)


Std bumper $889.00 includes:

Black powder coat,
center hoop,
headlight guard hoops, splash guards (pieces by tires, covers washer bottle etc.)
stanless steel skid plate,
turn signals,
place to mount 4" aftermarket fogs (PIAA 510)

2 recovery points (welded) are included in the standard price?

[shrockworks]

2 recovery points (welded) are included in the standard price?

Correct. Updated list below. I'll just keep updating it as things come up. I'm sure I missed something....

I'll try to get an options list together too. But basically it taking things off or adding accessories. We will consider some small/minor custom requests...for tabs and such. I'm not going to list that stuff, but call and ask if you have something in mind.


Std Features:
- 3/16", 1/4" Plate steel consrtuction
- Black powder coat
- Tubular center hoop and headlight guard hoops. 2"x.120 & 1.5"x.120 Tube
- Splash guards. Covers washer bottle and sheetmetal in that area on both sides, .120" steel.
- Stainless steel Front skid plate. .134"
- Turn signals
- Holes for mounting driving lights on top of bumper under center hoop
- Place to mount 4" aftermarket fogs or Driving lights (PIAA 510)
- Two 1/2" thick steel Recovery Points. Accept 3/4" Clevis shackles.

Options:
- No Tube
- Center Hoop only
- Gray Powder coat
- xtra tabs for antennas, wires, lights etc.

Accessories:
(See above post for lot's with pricing)

[Joel]

The light prices are for the "complete kit" correct?

[shrockworks]

The light prices are for the "complete kit" correct?

Correct, complete kit with relays, switches etc. You won't need it for the fogs (since you can use the factory wiring & switch) but it's the same price, so I always order the full kit just in case.

[Mikestang]

Is there any chance of getting clear front LED turn signals (or clear when off, orange when on)? I'm not partial to anything orange on my vehicles.

[shrockworks]

I dont about legal for a turn signal, but clear lights in the same size and mounting system are readily available. I doubt they make them in clear/amber

[shrockworks]

FWIW, amber LED's are readily available too. We are not shipping them with LED's bec. there are issues with the flaher rate, but if you want to tackle that, it's an option.

[ksneubec]

FWIW, amber LED's are readily available too. We are not shipping them with LED's bec. there are issues with the flaher rate, but if you want to tackle that, it's an option.

You need a special resistor in order to run the LEDs- their small loads "confuse" normal flashers so they flash too quickly. See this link:

http://www.superbrightleds.com/tail-brake-turn.html

And keep us updated if you do end up doing this- once I have money again I'd like to do it myself :)

[Mikestang]

I dont about legal for a turn signal, but clear lights in the same size and mounting system are readily available. I doubt they make them in clear/amber

In California legal colors for front signals are clear or amber, and for rear it's red or amber.

Ah, I misunderstood and thought the signals were LED, but a regular light is just fine. Thanks for the reply.

[shrockworks]

[QUOTE=ksneubec]You need a special resistor in order to run the LEDs.....QUOTE]

I know what is takes, but there just isnt a clean & simple enough solution for us to ship as a std feature. It really isnt very hard or that big of a deal, but it just doesnt make the cut as a std offering.

I just thought I'd let you guys know in case you want to start modding. :D The LED lights are about $20/ea.

[ToyFamily]

I've seen clear/amber LED Lights somewhere when I was reseaching...they do exist...tis not a myth. :bigok:

I haven't gone into any research on this but I have seen a new Lexus SUV with stock LED tail lights so I'm wondering if there is a flasher in those that might work out...not sure just a lead

Nick

[K6UK]

Whelen makes some pretty groovy LED lights.
Not sure about pricing... but here is the light head catalog:

http://www.whelen.com/pb/automotive/Catalogs/11337.pdf

-Mike

[ksneubec]

I'm not sure about Whelen- they make emergency lights but I'm not sure about turn signals. I'll look into it though- I know a few places that sell them, as I use them on my truck.

[K6UK]

They sell both emergency lighting and other lighting.
See the catalogue attached to my post above.

-Mike

[Joel]

BTW, I was able to sell the fairlead and cable that came with my m8000 for $50 pretty quickly if anybody is still sitting on theirs.

[Vegas Runner]

Where did you sell it?

[Joel]

The Vegas Valley 4wheelers board.
http://www.vv4w.org/bulletin.asp

[Dealmaker]

today I got around to do something I've been meaning to get to for awhile, plugging the accessory holes. At my local hardware store I bought two 1/2" nylon plugs for the light mount holes, and two 1/4" and one 1" (no 1-1/8" plugs avail.) for the winch remote holes. The 1/4" plugs were a bit too big so I sliced the shaft of them twice with a utility knife and then compressed the shank with pliers. I still had to tap them in with a piece of wood and a hammer. The other plugs (1" and 1/2") were a bit too loose so I snugged them up by wrapping electrical tape around the shaft. Now if I could just get to installing those new Slee brake lines. Anywho...not the best pic but...
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/10/30121275234.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3841595)

[bulldog]

today I got around to do something I've been meaning to get to for awhile, plugging the accessory holes. At my local hardware store I bought two 1/2" nylon plugs for the light mount holes, and two 1/4" and one 1" (no 1-1/8" plugs avail.) for the winch remote holes. The 1/4" plugs were a bit too big so I sliced the shaft of them twice with a utility knife and then compressed the shank with pliers. I still had to tap them in with a piece of wood and a hammer. The other plugs (1" and 1/2") were a bit too loose so I snugged them up by wrapping electrical tape around the shaft. Now if I could just get to installing those new Slee brake lines. Anywho...not the best pic but...
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/10/30121275234.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3841595)
Nice touch!! I prefer to keep my winch access hidden under the grill to prevent kids from messign with the winch when the truck is parked. SO I will probably never use the external plug holes on the bumper.