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Unread 10-19-2015, 10:08 PM   #1
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I've been lingering for awhile on this forum, and haven't contributed anything. Hopefully that will change. Parts are ordered and I figure it's time to start a build thread. It should go relatively quick. "The josh" is a big inspiration for this build. I've known Josh for sometime and have always been impressed with the truck he has built, both on road and off. A great deal of what I am planning for this truck is thanks to the help of Josh.

We are starting with a 2010 trail 4Runner that I have owned since new. My wife put 70k miles on it then moved it on to me. Below is what the plan is:

KDSS Delete F/R
Front - All Pro LT with Fox Coilovers / radflo hydro bumps
Rear - All Pro 3.5in Springs Fox shocks / radflo hydro bumps / swaybar of some kind

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Front - 4.88s and ARB / RCV LT shafts
Rear - Currie RJ 60 4.88/ARB

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37/17 Toyo MT
17in Hutchinson Beadlocks

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CBI front and rear

Everything above is ordered so we should start making progress early next week.

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Unread 10-19-2015, 10:31 PM   #2
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Before shot



KDSS Goodbye



The KDSS is removed from the rear completely and the front is in the process.

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Unread 10-19-2015, 11:12 PM   #3
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Good luck with the build, sounds interesting.

37s are going to eat up a lot of your travel with LTs, using any special fenders? 35s are already a fun challenge. Steering is another area to look at with larger tires, using LT for extra droop and limiting uptravel to fit the 37s will lead to increased wheeling angle and more stress on the steering. And Toyos are on the wide and large side with a lot of weight, making extra hard to fit.
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Unread 10-19-2015, 11:24 PM   #4
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I am in to follow.

I plan on doing LT up front on mine someday but will go Total Chaos 2" kit. Plan on sticking with the 34s and trimming fenders for no rub. 37 will be work.


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Unread 10-20-2015, 12:03 AM   #5
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That's a lot to throw in at once! I'm interested to see where this goes, looks like a great start
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Unread 10-20-2015, 09:10 AM   #6
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I expect there to be lots of cutting involved to fit the 37s. I had the 37in Toyos left over from another project so want to try and fit them. They are really wide, so a narrower 37 may be necessary. As far as steering goes that's something I'm just going to have to try and see what happens. If it is a problem I have some solutions in my head already. I looked at all the LT setups and chose All Pro for a few key reasons. We will see how it works out.
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Unread 10-21-2015, 10:11 PM   #7
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Made some progress on the rear tonight. The rear axle is torn down and ready to come out. Gotta press the backing plates off the axle shafts. This also showed up today. My little helper assisted with unpacking.

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Unread 10-21-2015, 11:14 PM   #8
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Jelly!


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Unread 10-22-2015, 08:17 PM   #9
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Awesome. Want to sell your stock CV axles?
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Unread 10-22-2015, 09:51 PM   #10
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I'm actually using my stock CVs for spares. I'll have to run them for a little while with the new shafts because RCV is still putting the finishing touches on their Toyota IFS shafts.
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Unread 10-23-2015, 02:33 PM   #11
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Looking forward to seeing this beast!

I'm not too familiar with aftermarket rear axles. Can you explain why you got a new one rather than replacing the gears in the stock housing?
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Unread 10-23-2015, 03:19 PM   #12
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DAMN. No desire to throw IFS out all together? Up travel will be non-existent with the 37s if you're not going with a substantial BL.
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Unread 10-23-2015, 05:47 PM   #13
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Looking forward to seeing this beast!

I'm not too familiar with aftermarket rear axles. Can you explain why you got a new one rather than replacing the gears in the stock housing?
Answering that question may get some mixed opinions but this would be my answer. I love the Toyota 8in (4Runner) and 8.4in (Tacoma) rear axles. I've been using them forever on crawlers. They are light and very strong relatively. However when built, newer 4Runners get very heavy very quickly. Sometimes it's necessary to reinforce or truss the stock housing if it is seeing very heavy abuse on a heavy truck. Beyond that you run into strength limitations of both the 8in gears and axle shafts. Strength issues of basically parts not being as big. Again, some would argue with me on this. I tend to build as beefy as possible to minimize possible problems.
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DAMN. No desire to throw IFS out all together? Up travel will be non-existent with the 37s if you're not going with a substantial BL.
The original plan on this truck was to SAS it. As the plans evolved I decided I wanted to "cut up" as little as possible. I want this truck to be a more simple build, hopefully making it more reliable overall. I think that the IFS on these can be built to be strong, and for what I'll use the truck for, better suited. I will not be running a body lift. I believe I can get a very decent amount of uptravel with my extensive trimming plans. Bear with me. It will come together. I'll start making progress on this next week.

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Unread 10-23-2015, 05:54 PM   #15
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Sweet, keep us posted with lots of photos.
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Unread 10-23-2015, 06:03 PM   #16
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Answering that question may get some mixed opinions but this would be my answer. I love the Toyota 8in (4Runner) and 8.4in (Tacoma) rear axles. I've been using them forever on crawlers. They are light and very strong relatively. However when built, newer 4Runners get very heavy very quickly. Sometimes it's necessary to reinforce or truss the stock housing if it is seeing very heavy abuse on a heavy truck. Beyond that you run into strength limitations of both the 8in gears and axle shafts. Strength issues of basically parts not being as big. Again, some would argue with me on this. I tend to build as beefy as possible to minimize possible problems.
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Unread 10-23-2015, 06:12 PM   #17
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Cool, thanks!
I'll take some pics before I install the new shafts showing the difference in axle shaft diameter between the new and old.
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Unread 10-23-2015, 06:24 PM   #18
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In fact what better time is now. . Here you can see the difference in diameter. New (35 spline) stock (30 spline).



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Unread 10-23-2015, 07:52 PM   #19
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Time to go wheeling!!!!
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I'm getting out the popcorn
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