Big Bear Braai VII - 8-10 July

[bulldog]

OK, time to start planning BBB VII.

Updated info:

Camping:
We will be camping at the Oso Group Campsite
- Water - there is actually a water spigot in the middle of the camp, close to a bunch of picnic tables. I didn't see anything mentioning potable or not. There is also a bathroom sink with running water.
- garbage facility - there were large trash bins in the parking lot
- Restroom - large bathroom facility with flush toilets, urinal and sink.
- Picnic tables - Plenty of picnic tables, some grouped together and others scattered about.
- There is a BBQ place and fire ring, campfires are allowed and charcoal BBQ (this can however change at the last minute)
- There is an amphitheater with large group fire ring
- Trees and shade
- Space for 25 trucks and 100 people (might get a few more trucks in if needs be)
- More info see http://www.recreation.gov/camping/Os...e=NRSO&chkAg=y

For latest conditions see
http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/sanbernardin...ns/index.shtml

Campsite location.

Driving directions:
Located 32 miles northeast of the city of San Bernadino, CA. From I-10, take the Alabama exit in the city of Redlands, to Lugonia Ave (St Hwy 38). Head northeast on Hwy 38 for approximately 28 miles to the campground entrance.

GPS coords:
N34.17583 W116.86056

Folks not sure how to get there, should caravan or ask to meet up at the Discovery center.

Camping fees:
$509 for the whole site - I paid already. So there will be a fee of $30-35 per truck for the weekend. We have 16 trucks so far, but will have to check final numbers Friday for final cost per truck. Please pay Friday so we can use the extra funds for firewood Saturday.



Weather
As of 7/4 the forecast is :-
Fri:
Partly Cloudy - High 78, Low 52

Sat:
Sunny - High 77, Low 51

Sun:
Sunny - High 78, Low 50



Agenda


Friday
Meet and setup camp. Folks who come by early enough is advised to go to the Discovery center/Ranger station on 18. They have plenty of cool map books and maps.

Some guys may go out on Friday to explore some of the trails in the South if time permits. Informal & decide at camp, preferably very small groups of 3 or less trucks.

Will have a nice BBQ on Friday.

Saturday

3-4 groups on trails as per assignments listed in post 2.

Plan on leaving camp by 9AM or so.

Be back early evening 6-7 PM for the Big Bear Braai BBB.

Sunday
- Pack camp, breakfast and head out 9:30 AM (or so)

Decide at camp if people want to stop by Pioneer Town or different groups, that may want to head in different trails.



Food
No formal meal planning this year.
Try to cook a few extras on Friday and Saturday, as well as bring some side dishes to share.
Typically a few folks may opt out of cooking in the evening and make breakfast in the morning.

Pack portable lunches, as we will have them along the trail.

Maps and comms, etc
Comms :
- CB channel 31, if there is an issue with this one we will change at campsite on Sat Morning
- Ham 146.460 (4WD Ch2)
- Ham repeaters
Option 1
146.385 + PL 146.2 on Keller Peak

Option 2
147.330 + PL 131.8 in Big Bear (Sugarloaf Mtn.?)

Option 3
147.645 - PL 103.5

- We will use a repeater between groups and CB for in group comms

Maps :
Map link
http://www.toyota120.com/forum/showthread.php?t=378


Very nice map of the trails in the area
http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/sanbernardin...hNewsprint.pdf

You can also buy maps at the Discovery center (highly advised).

[MysticZ]

Attendee list and trail assignments.

Group 1 Hardcore (Trailboss Wyatt's call)
Vehicle and driver requirements: Minimum 33" tires, 35" preferred, Rear locker, sliders, front and rear tow points
Trails: Gold Mountain to John Bull. If time permits we will run Dish pan.
Group Size: Six trucks
1. Wyatt - AWSUMDC - Big Ass Taco
2. Dan - - Big Ass Taco
3. Pedram--- Small Ass Runner
4.Sahabi9 - 05 4runner
5. Expat - 04 Sport (if various plans fall into place over the next week!)
6. Walt - 06 Wrangler LJ


Group 2 Moderate (Trailboss Bulldog)
Vehicle and driver req: 33 AT/MT, lift, sliders, ATRAC or rear locker
Trails: Converse/Radford Road, Gold Mountain, Holcomb (if time allows) or Jacoby back
Group Size: 5 Trucks
1. Andries - Bulldog - 03 Build 4Runner
2. Mark - MCL_68 -07 Build 4Runner
3. Dave - Dawgrunner - 08 4Runner
4. Jon - SP Jon M3 - 08 4Runner (can we throw in Heartbreak Ridge for the South Side? Google Maps)
5. Jon - Unionjack - 08 Taco with stuff...
6. Masa - MysticZ
7. Tim - Tdub


The vehicle req and size will be enforced, please verify with trailboss before signing up. May take an extra truck pending trucks that sign up.




Group 3 Level: (Trailboss ??)
Vehicle and driver req:
Trails: TBD

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Group 4 Level: Easy to Moderate (Trailboss: Vegas Runner)
Vehicle and driver recommended: 32 AT/MT, High Clearance Vehicle
Trails: Jacoby Canyon (One or two tight spots, some large rocks), White Mountain (loose shale and small rocks with steep inclines and dropoffs), Holcomb Creek Road (easy, high clearance vehicle only), Clark's Grade (easy, high clearance vehicle only)
Group Size: Five trucks
9:00AM to 6:45PM
Click here for map & itinerary
Red indicates the harder parts of the days trip.

1. Ed-Vegas Runner
2. Ed & Kim -kimbyk8
3. Jeremy - Jeremy
4. Sid - SidVicious
5. Josh - Josh220
6. Jeremy - CAdreamn

[Mikestang]

Not too late July, Monarch Meadows is the end of July. Maybe mid-August?

[shuly]

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[caslim]

Originally Posted by MysticZ

1. Bulldog --- Andries + ? --- 03 4Runner Build
2. MysticZ + Wife 05 4Runner 4wd Build
3. Caslim + 1
4.
5.
6.

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I'm probably down depending on dates.

[Net4n6]

1. Bulldog --- Andries + ? --- 03 4Runner Build
2. MysticZ + Wife 05 4Runner 4wd Build
3. Net4n6 --- Tyler + 2 sons - 06 sport 4WD (We had great time last year)
4.
5.
6.

[MCL68]

1. Bulldog --- Andries + ? --- 03 4Runner Build
2. MysticZ + Wife 05 4Runner 4wd Build
3. Caslim + 1
4. Net4n6 --- Tyler + 2 sons - 06 sport 4WD (We had great time last year)
5. MCL_68 ---Mark + ? --- 07 4Runner
6.

[Josh220]

1. Bulldog --- Andries + ? --- 03 4Runner Build
2. MysticZ + Wife 05 4Runner 4wd Build
3. Caslim + 1
4. Net4n6 --- Tyler + 2 sons - 06 sport 4WD (We had great time last year)
5. MCL_68 ---Mark + ? --- 07 4Runner
6. Josh220--- Josh + 1 --- 07 4Runner
7.
8.
9.
10.

[BlairB]

1. Bulldog --- Andries + ? --- 03 4Runner Build
2. MysticZ + Wife 05 4Runner 4wd Build
3. Caslim + 1
4. Net4n6 --- Tyler + 2 sons - 06 sport 4WD (We had great time last year)
5. MCL_68 ---Mark + ? --- 07 4Runner
6. Josh220--- Josh + 1 --- 07 4Runner
7. BlairB--- Blair + ? --- 08 4Runner
8.
9.
10.

[SP Jon M3]

1. Bulldog --- Andries + ? --- 03 4Runner Build
2. MysticZ + Wife 05 4Runner 4wd Build
3. Caslim + 1
4. Net4n6 --- Tyler + 2 sons - 06 sport 4WD (We had great time last year)
5. MCL_68 ---Mark + ? --- 07 4Runner
6. Josh220--- Josh + 1 --- 07 4Runner
7. BlairB--- Blair + ? --- 08 4Runner
8. SP Jon M3 --- Jon --- 08 4Runner.. Depending on the date of the event.
9.
10.

[Tdub06]

1. Bulldog --- Andries + ? --- 03 4Runner Build
2. MysticZ + Wife 05 4Runner 4wd Build
3. Caslim + 1
4. Net4n6 --- Tyler + 2 sons - 06 sport 4WD (We had great time last year)
5. MCL_68 ---Mark + ? --- 07 4Runner
6. Josh220--- Josh + 1 --- 07 4Runner
7. BlairB--- Blair + ? --- 08 4Runner
8. SP Jon M3 --- Jon --- 08 4Runner.. Depending on the date of the event.
9. Tdub06 --- Tim + 1 --- 06, Icon, 32's, sliders
10.

[shuly]

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[Sahabi9]

1. Bulldog --- Andries + ? --- 03 4Runner Build
2. MysticZ + Wife 05 4Runner 4wd Build
3. Caslim + 1
4. Net4n6 --- Tyler + 2 sons - 06 sport 4WD (We had great time last year)
5. MCL_68 ---Mark + ? --- 07 4Runner
6. Josh220--- Josh + 1 --- 07 4Runner
7. BlairB--- Blair + ? --- 08 4Runner
8. SP Jon M3 --- Jon --- 08 4Runner.. Depending on the date of the event.
9. Tdub06 --- Tim + 1 --- 06, Icon, 32's, sliders
10. Shuly +1? & +2dogs...depending on the date
11. Sahabi9 --- Abu + Daughter. 05 4runner
12. Walthild --- Walt (depending on the dates)

1. Bulldog --- Andries + ? --- 03 4Runner Build
2. MysticZ + Wife 05 4Runner 4wd Build
3. Caslim + 1
4. Net4n6 --- Tyler + 2 sons - 06 sport 4WD (We had great time last year)
5. MCL_68 ---Mark + ? --- 07 4Runner
6. Josh220--- Josh + 1 --- 07 4Runner
7. BlairB--- Blair + ? --- 08 4Runner
8. SP Jon M3 --- Jon --- 08 4Runner.. Depending on the date of the event.
9. Tdub06 --- Tim + 1 --- 06, Icon, 32's, sliders
10. Shuly +1? & +2dogs...depending on the date
11. Sahabi9 --- Abu + Daughter. 05 4runner
12. Walthild --- Walt (depending on the dates)
13. bt216 --- Brad + 2 dogs (depending on dates)

[caslim]

1. Bulldog --- Andries + ? --- 03 4Runner Build
2. MysticZ + Wife 05 4Runner 4wd Build
3. Caslim --- DJ + 1
4. Net4n6 --- Tyler + 2 sons - 06 sport 4WD (We had great time last year)
5. MCL_68 ---Mark + ? --- 07 4Runner
6. Josh220--- Josh + 1 --- 07 4Runner
7. BlairB--- Blair + ? --- 08 4Runner
8. SP Jon M3 --- Jon --- 08 4Runner.. Depending on the date of the event.
9. Tdub06 --- Tim + 1 --- 06, Icon, 32's, sliders
10. Shuly +1? & +2dogs...depending on the date
11. Sahabi9 --- Abu + Daughter. 05 4runner
12. Walthild --- Walt (depending on the dates)
13. bt216 --- Brad + 2 dogs (depending on dates)

[expat]

1. Bulldog --- Andries + ? --- 03 4Runner Build
2. MysticZ + Wife 05 4Runner 4wd Build
3. Caslim --- DJ + 1
4. Net4n6 --- Tyler + 2 sons - 06 sport 4WD (We had great time last year)
5. MCL_68 ---Mark + ? --- 07 4Runner
6. Josh220--- Josh + 1 --- 07 4Runner
7. BlairB--- Blair + ? --- 08 4Runner
8. SP Jon M3 --- Jon --- 08 4Runner.. Depending on the date of the event.
9. Tdub06 --- Tim + 1 --- 06, Icon, 32's, sliders
10. Shuly +1? & +2dogs...depending on the date
11. Sahabi9 --- Abu + Daughter. 05 4runner
12. Walthild --- Walt (depending on the dates)
13. bt216 --- Brad + 2 dogs (depending on dates)
14. expat - Mark - as long as its not too close to Monache Meadows

[Net4n6]

Are we going to have 2 groups? One for hard trail and one for medium/easy?

[caslim]

Originally Posted by expat

1. Bulldog --- Andries + ? --- 03 4Runner Build
2. MysticZ + Wife 05 4Runner 4wd Build
3. Caslim --- DJ + 1
4. Net4n6 --- Tyler + 2 sons - 06 sport 4WD (We had great time last year)
5. MCL_68 ---Mark + ? --- 07 4Runner
6. Josh220--- Josh + 1 --- 07 4Runner
7. BlairB--- Blair + ? --- 08 4Runner
8. SP Jon M3 --- Jon --- 08 4Runner.. Depending on the date of the event.
9. Tdub06 --- Tim + 1 --- 06, Icon, 32's, sliders
10. Shuly +1? & +2dogs...depending on the date
11. Sahabi9 --- Abu + Daughter. 05 4runner
12. Walthild --- Walt (depending on the dates)
13. bt216 --- Brad + 2 dogs (depending on dates)
14. expat - Mark - as long as its not too close to Monache Meadows

You'll be fine Mark. Monache is like 200 miles from Big Bear.

[shuly]

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