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Unread 08-10-2010, 02:28 PM   #1
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Default Bi Bear - Lower Larga Trail

Going this Sunday (15th Aug) with SoCal FJ's to work on reopening this trail. Its well overgrown so lots need to be cut back. Also fallen trees need to be winched off trail and some fencing to be done.

I believe its rated as a Black Diamond trail although some video I saw didnt seem to look too hard.

Anyone interested in joining in for the day? I can add more detail if anyone is interested.

So far there is only a small crew of about six trucks. More would be good.

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Sounds like a cool trail (harder than I think maybe LOL) http://www.myjeeprocks.com/reports/c...r-larga-2n06x/ 3miles long, 1 hr traveling time.
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Unread 08-10-2010, 03:13 PM   #2
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Might try to make this need to check the home schedule first, A colleague from work just got a jeep and might also be interested.
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Do you need sliders for that trail? And where is Bi Bear? Sounds like a kinky town.
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Do you need sliders for that trail?
Don't have sliders?


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Sounds like a cool trail (harder than I think maybe LOL) http://www.myjeeprocks.com/reports/c...r-larga-2n06x/ 3miles long, 1 hr traveling time.
Yeah, I read that about the trail. Seems like a tricky one. Think a Runner on 33"s, sliders, but no skids can handle it?
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Do you need sliders for that trail? And where is Bi Bear? Sounds like a kinky town.
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You can expect to encounter large boulders. The US Forest Service rates this trail a black diamond most difficult trail and it is not recommended for stock SUVs. Body damage and breakage are a possibility.
Sliders, yeah I think so
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I think (never been there 'cause its been closed for a few years) that you would need skids and sliders and a lift. Im sure 33's would be fine.

Remember this is a working event. Cutting back bushes, moving trees, re-establishing fences as we travel the trail.

I am sure they would be most happy to have as many hands as possible. I will check and post back.

Sorry about the kinky name ROFLOL. There is a g missing as in Big Bear hahahahaha
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Remember this is a working event. Cutting back bushes, moving trees, re-establishing fences as we travel the trail.

I am sure they would be most happy to have as many hands as possible. I will check and post back.
If I'm not busy, I'd definitely be willing to help out. Only thing is though.. I want to make sure my 4Runner isn't part of the cleanup effort..
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From the FJ guys...

"Mark, they must undertand that they are ultimately responsible for their own safety. All of us that are going are already in a roster for AAT, which means they are registered with the SBNF and is covered under a general insurance for accidents while working for the FS. If they are cool with that, then we'll welcome them with open arms! I really appreciate you getting the word out."

And to reiterate, it is a black diamond trail so suspension, skids, sliders and tires need to be capable.
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Not yet on the '07, but the wheels are in motion.


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Remember this is a working event. Cutting back bushes, moving trees, re-establishing fences as we travel the trail.
Yup, got it, I didn't mean to imply that I would be there to wheel. I may be free and would love to come help, but since I don't have sliders on yet it doesn't seem like I'd be able to.
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If you want to get on the SBNF roster (for insurance cover) they need the following details by tomorrow night

Full Name
Telephone
Emergency Contact
City of Residence.
Email

Otherwise, you just accept responsibility for your own safety etc.
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Meetup time/location

Bass Pro Shop
7777 Victoria Gardens Lane
Rancho Cucamonga, CA 91739
Phone: 909-922-5500

GPS Coordinates:
34.112782N, 117.52691W (WGS84/NAD83)

7:30am

Link to trail on video http://www.vimeo.com/13990303

We'll need tools for clearing brush and branches. Bring loppers, saws, trimmers, axe, gloves, eye protection, and hard hat if you have them. (I have a ton of hard hats)
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Ok, from the video sliders for sure, heh heh. Any idea how long of a day it will be? If my Sunday is open maybe I could hitch a ride up, that Bass Pro Shop is about 5 minutes from my house.
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I know that people leave when ever they feel they have to. My guess is that being a Sunday most people will be wanting to head back home about 3pm.

When the trail was open a few years back, I believe it was an hour long trail. From the video it looks like theres not too much cutting back, but there might be a lot of fence work to do. I gather last time they were up there, they rebuilt the entrance to stop people going thru (upon request of SBNF) but it was a temporary job and might have to have more work done on it.

At this stage I am note sure what my plans are because on Saturday I am taking agroup of newbies up to big bear and give them a chance to do some trails and then look at and demo recovery techniques etc. I was half thinking of staying up over night rather than going all the way back to Ventura county then coming all the way back out again on Sunday. Even as I type this I'm convincing myself to stay up there. Its a 3.5hr drive each way for me so doing that 4 times in two days is none to attractive. If anyine wants to come join me camping overnight in BB that would be cool.
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Ok, so is anyone confirmed to be coming?

I'll be in BB sat night so won't be at the meetup at Bass Pro. I will meet them at the trailhead.
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