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Unread 06-12-2011, 11:00 PM   #1
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Default Timing Belt & Water Pump Maintenance

I need to get my timing belt changed soon (2005 V8 2UZ-FE @ 98K miles and about to go on a 4,000 mile road trip) and am weighing my options and had a few questions for y'all:
1. What is a reasonable price I should pay at the dealership to have the full timing belt/water pump/thermostat maintenance done? The prices I have seen people paying are anywhere from $750 to $1,550, which seems like a pretty wide gap and probably includes different things.

2. What are the chances that the dealership will allow me to purchase all of the parts elsewhere (probably one of the kits off of eBay, like this) and have them install all of it?

3. Is it worth it to have it done at the dealership? The reason I ask this is because if there happens to be a small leak in the water pump when they get everything off, then all of the labor associated with replacing the water pump will be covered under my warranty (i.e., all I will have to pay for is the parts). If I get it done at an independent shop, then I lose the possibility of my warranty saving my ass. But, my warranty is only good for another 2,000 miles anyways.

4. If my water pump isn't leaking at all, should I have it replaced while they are in there or just leave the current one in there?

5. Would it be a waste of time/money to change my plugs now? I'm thinking about changing out my spark plugs before the trip, but Toyota doesn't recommend that I change for another 30,000.

6. Is there anything else I should do while the truck is in for service and/or before I go on this trip? I recently changed the oil and oil filter, flushed the brake fluid and coolant, cleaned the MAF sensor, cleaned the throttle body, Seafoamed the crank case/oil/gas, and changed the fluids in my diffs and transfer case.
Thanks in advance for your help.
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Unread 06-13-2011, 12:01 PM   #2
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I just got a coupon from Superior Toyota here in Kansas City, V8 Timing belt $ 349, I would add pulleys, water pump and all belts, then it could get to $ 700. I would do it all at the dealer, for the best warranty.
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Unread 06-13-2011, 05:16 PM   #3
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http://www.toyota120.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20608
http://www.toyota120.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19796
http://www.toyota120.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17620
http://www.toyota120.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17956
http://www.toyota120.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9727
http://www.toyota120.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1753
http://www.toyota120.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6796

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Thanks Mikestang. I tried searching for days and still didn't find much. I had read some of those threads previously.
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Unread 06-15-2011, 02:09 PM   #5
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Well, I called around to a bunch of different dealerships and I got prices that were all over the map. Below are the price ranges that I got:

Timing Belt: $450 - $685 (parts and labor)
Serpentine Belt: $40 - $110 (belt only, no labor)
Water Pump: $280 - $380 (parts and labor while also doing timing belt)

I also had an independent shop quote me at $798 for the timing belt, serpentine belt, water pump, thermostat, and coolant flush. Once I told him that I was weighing my options with going to the dealership, he knocked 20% off, which brings it down to $662.

I am waiting on my local dealer to call me back to see if he can come anywhere near the independent shop's price for the timing belt, serpentine belt, water pump, and thermostat. I think if he can do it all for under $750 I will for sure go to the dealership.

Again, the reason I don't want to go to the independent shop is that if the water pump happens to be leaking when they open it up, my Toyota warranty will cover all of the parts and labor associated with replacing the water pump, and all I will have to pay for is parts for the timing belt, serpentine belt, thermostat, etc.

Any input from you guys???
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$662 is a great price. Make sure the indy is a reputable shop. I got mine done by a Toyota dealer and it cost me $1050. Included timing belt, water pump, cam/crank seals, serpentine belt, new radiator hoses and coolant flush. All included in my price.

Have a fun trip!
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$662 is a great price. Make sure the indy is a reputable shop. I got mine done by a Toyota dealer and it cost me $1050. Included timing belt, water pump, cam/crank seals, serpentine belt, new radiator hoses and coolant flush. All included in my price.
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The independent shop has a great reputation. However, I ended up going to the dealership because I got them to come down significantly in price. They charged me $775 (plus tax) for the timing belt, serpentine belt, water pump, cam/crank seals, and thermostat.

The main reason I had the dealership do it is because if there happened to be a small leak in the water pump, my warranty would have covered all of the parts and labor associated with replacing the leaking water pump. Unfortunately, there was no leak in the pump, but I had them replace it anyways (mainly because they did it for $140 parts and labor).

Thanks for all of your help.
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I am getting close also, we have 89K on ours. I have not yet started to look into prices yet. My first stop will be the dealer, but other than that there are not many indy shops (that have good reps) to choose from around here.

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I am getting close also, we have 89K on ours. I have not yet started to look into prices yet. My first stop will be the dealer, but other than that there are not many indy shops (that have good reps) to choose from around here.

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Yah, there's not too much variety up there in da UP, eh?

I wouldn't be TOO worried about getting this maintenance done ASAP. I got my parts back and my timing belt looked like it was in great shape and like it could have gone at least another 50,000+ miles without even worrying about it breaking. Rather than mileage, when considering when to change your belt out, I would give greater weight to the age of the belt and the climate you drive in rather than the mileage.

At 97,000 miles, my 6.5 year-old belt's teeth were still very defined and were not frayed the least bit. Also, my buddy has a 2001 Tundra with 170,000 miles and he is still on his original timing belt, water pump, thermostat, idler pulleys, and tensioner. I'm not saying you should go 170K miles though....

I can take pics of the old timing belt, thermostat, and water pump when I get home on Saturday if you would like.
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Thanks for the info Glock. I just need to start calling and getting the prices so I can have this done before winter sets in. Don't worry about snapping some pics. If I need want to see some I will pm you.
Thanks again.
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Thanks for the info Glock. I just need to start calling and getting the prices so I can have this done before winter sets in. Don't worry about snapping some pics. If I need want to see some I will pm you.
Thanks again.
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Well, I'm driving back to Michigan for a month and a half on Tuesday so if you want the pictures I'll have to take them either before I leave or after I get back. I'll be doing some work in the garage this weekend, so it is not a problem at all.
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Thanks, I will let you know. Have a safe drive.
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In case you decide to do the job yourself, here is a pretty in-depth video I put together for the procedure. I was working on a LS430, but the procedure should be almost identical.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCTGHurWA1c
Hope you find it helpful!
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Just got a quote for $650 (T-stat, Water pump & timing belt)
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In case you decide to do the job yourself, here is a pretty in-depth video I put together for the procedure. I was working on a LS430, but the procedure should be almost identical.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCTGHurWA1c
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Fantastic video and thanks for posting. Are the ebay volkstoy kits for this exactly equivalent OEM parts?
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