4X4Labs install write up

[Darklight]

ok how did my pictures for this write up reappear? Awesome, now if only all of my pictures would come back

[Jeffy]

Originally Posted by Darklight

ok how did my pictures for this write up reappear? Awesome, now if only all of my pictures would come back

They're still missing for me?

[Darklight]

Ok I'm in the twilight zone they showed up earlier. Really weird.

[bulldog]

Maybe cached on a browser???

[Darklight]

slowly getting my pics back up, first page edited but missing a few still.

[4loco]

Originally Posted by jediwebdude

Example of a Flickr hosted photo...behold my 4x4 Labs rear bumper with drop-down cutting board and table...

Would you mind posting some detailed pictures of your drop down tables? Specifically the table side. Yours are the only 4x4labs ones ive seen. I'm getting my bumper in a couple of weeks and plan on building these tables or something like it. Thank you!

I will be sure to post my install pictures and results as well!

[jediwebdude]

Originally Posted by 4loco

Would you mind posting some detailed pictures of your drop down tables? Specifically the table side. Yours are the only 4x4labs ones ive seen. I'm getting my bumper in a couple of weeks and plan on building these tables or something like it. Thank you!

I will be sure to post my install pictures and results as well!

I won't be able to get more pics anytime soon. Just so you are aware, the tables are easily removed and re-attached. Luke welds on a circular base on each side so a bicycle quick-release can be attached. That quick-release is what allows you to drop the tables down and put them back up. You simply unthread the quick-release axle when you are ready to remove the tables. I have the tables attached only for trips.

Call Luke and tell him you are interested in the tables he put on Phil's bumper. Even if you don't buy both tables now, he can still weld on the parts needed and you can always buy the other table later.

[4loco]

Originally Posted by jediwebdude

I won't be able to get more pics anytime soon. Just so you are aware, the tables are easily removed and re-attached. Luke welds on a circular base on each side so a bicycle quick-release can be attached. That quick-release is what allows you to drop the tables down and put them back up. You simply unthread the quick-release axle when you are ready to remove the tables. I have the tables attached only for trips.

Call Luke and tell him you are interested in the tables he put on Phil's bumper. Even if you don't buy both tables now, he can still weld on the parts needed and you can always buy the other table later.

Wow. That is genius.... thanks for the info! Those are great ideas.

[expat]

How come you guys opted for the spare on the left? (because of blind spot on the right I'm assuming?). Seems to me with the weight of the driver, gas tank and the wheel its a lot of weight on the driver side.

With my 37" on the rear, on a center mounted carrier, I have precious little rear view out the back window so I use the side mirrors all the time (almost exclusively). With my upcoming 40" I expect that to be even worse! I asked too late to have the spare mounted on the right side. Sure the gas cans will go on the right to balance out the weight a bit, but I don't carry gas cans except when wheeling.

Wyatt has tried to estimate the weights and flexed the suspension with some dummy weight but I am sure I'm going to need different springs left and right to manage all the weight on the left side.

Thoughts?

[expat]

Whats the instal time when not having to weld?

Did anyone weld the new bumper to the frame rails for extra security/strength? I know that was done on Abu's 4R.

[Darklight]

I think most put it in the left for a little better visibility but to be honest it’s going to block like 75% of the view. I had mine off for a week and I couldn’t believe how nice it was to be able and see out of the window again! Haha
You can also opt to have it in the center and do single can holder on each swing out and side.

[expat]

Originally Posted by Darklight

I think most put it in the left for a little better visibility but to be honest it’s going to block like 75% of the view. I had mine off for a week and I couldn’t believe how nice it was to be able and see out of the window again! Haha
You can also opt to have it in the center and do single can holder on each swing out and side.

Yeah but unfortunately they could not or did not want to mount such a heavy tire as a 40” in the centre so I got stuck with it being side mounted. Unfortunately I reached out too late and got stuck with it mounted on the opposite side to what I preferred.

I guess I’ll roll with it this way for now and if it’s not working out when I try to balance out the weight and suspension then I might have to look at a different coil for the drivers side rear. Sigh.

Thx for your thoughts

[Darklight]

Mark, I know Luke is a pretty stand up guy. If he thinks a 40” tire might be a bit to much weight in the center then I would go with his suggestion.
Would prefer it on the drivers side anyway. I added a 1” spacer on the drivers side to try to account for the lean ever since I started Pandora’s box 10 years ago lol. Kept it with the new coils too.
You going to run coilovers in the rear ? That would be best! Then you can crank a hair to account for the lean.

Bobby

[expat]

Originally Posted by Darklight

You going to run coilovers in the rear ?
Bobby

Later maybe. My concern wont be so much the ride height being lower on one side because of all the weight, but the ability of the shocks to work evenly on compression and extension so that it doesn't end up all mushy on one side. Well we will see

[Darklight]

Mark, I don’t notice one side feeling softer than the other due to the added weight but I’m on 315/75R16’s.
These rear bumpers are pretty hefty. Another thought is King compression adjusters !

Bobby

[expat]

Can u fit a 4x4 Labs bumper inside the 4Runner to get it home or a workshop to install? Anyone?? Urgento?

[Mikestang]

Probably, you can fit a shrockworks front bumper.

[Darklight]

Just sent a PM. I would get a full-size truck. Might be able to get it in the Runner unwrapped. The shell and swing arms is like 200 lbs so it’s heavy.

Bobby