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View Poll Results: Would you go with 35's vs 33's?
No stick with 33's, too many headaches. 3 37.50%
Yes, I would do it again in a heartbeat! 5 62.50%
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Unread 04-26-2017, 02:22 PM   #1
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Hey guys! So I'm wanting to fit 35's on my 08 v6 and have heard conflicting stories about being good and bad. So there's a guy locally who was bought his 05 used around 100k and slapped 35's in it along with toyotec CO's and a body lift (he's SASing it on 40's and just got it on the ground). Being here in AZ with it being rocky, he said that he was constantly taking it back in after an off road adventure and having to get his steering realigned. Now, I've got the Total Chaos alignment tabs on my truck to help with alignment, since Toyota bent them and wouldn't claim they did.

So anyways I'm wanting to know your feedback about going from 33's to 35's. I would regear and do a body lift if I did it when my Cooper's wear out.
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Hey guys! So I'm wanting to fit 35's on my 08 v6 and have heard conflicting stories about being good and bad. So there's a guy locally who was bought his 05 used around 100k and slapped 35's in it along with toyotec CO's and a body lift (he's SASing it on 40's and just got it on the ground). Being here in AZ with it being rocky, he said that he was constantly taking it back in after an off road adventure and having to get his steering realigned. Now, I've got the Total Chaos alignment tabs on my truck to help with alignment, since Toyota bent them and wouldn't claim they did.

So anyways I'm wanting to know your feedback about going from 33's to 35's. I would regear and do a body lift if I did it when my Cooper's wear out.
Other than fitment and need for a regear, there's really nothing to stop you from doing it if that's what you want. It'll kill your gas mileage for sure though, and it'll stress out the CVs a bit more but I don't think you'll have much issue there at all.

I don't see why 35's would need an alignment any more than 33's, although I usually take mine in for an alignment after every wheeling trip or two anyways. I've got the free lifetime alignment from Firestone, so it only takes an hour or so of my time every few months.
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I am debating this now as well and time is closing in on my decision. The only thing really holding me back is bad gas mileage as this is my daily driver. If I was geting to the trail more often it wouldn't be a second guess. I would do 35"s for sure. With more and more away from the trail time lately, it is making me second guess at this time.

Bigger body lift or just cut and trim until it fits. My thoughts on it.

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I am debating this now as well and time is closing in on my decision. The only thing really holding me back is bad gas mileage as this is my daily driver. If I was geting to the trail more often it wouldn't be a second guess. I would do 35"s for sure. With more and more away from the trail time lately, it is making me second guess at this time.

Bigger body lift or just cut and trim until it fits. My thoughts on it.

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If it's your daily, 33's should be fine. If you end up making it a trail rig, 35's would be nice.
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That is kind of what I'm thinking right now. Been longing for 35's though for a while now.
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Or you can do what I did and go with 34's. I couldn't decide between 35's or 33's so I chose the middle!

And gas mileage still rocks- I just got 400 miles on my tank, averaging between 18 and 19 mpg.
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Or you can do what I did and go with 34's. I couldn't decide between 35's or 33's so I chose the middle!

And gas mileage still rocks- I just got 400 miles on my tank, averaging between 18 and 19 mpg.
In all fairness, those 34x10 bfgs barely stand at 33 inches when installed. The 285/75/17 Falkens measure just at 33.1 once installed too. Most 35's are actually 34.1 inches, so keep that in mind too while you hunt.
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All good info folks! So no extra alignment issues or hardware issues with putting the 35's on for those that have?

@ Jeffy - WOW! Haven't seen that MPG since before my lift. I hit 17 to barely 18 with my Kelli Safri's. But the Cooper MT's have dropped the MPG down some, where I get 300-350 a tank going to E.
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Jeffy not fair man, lol. The difference is the 5th gen verses a 4th gen. I barely get 15 mpg on tiny 33's.
There is another difference as well. Tire pressure, vehicle weight, load rating and manufacturer all come in to play with tire sizes. Most tires height are with out a load. Once mounted and installed the size will change due to rim width and size, vehicle weight and load ratings. Just some food for thought.
Either way it is more mass and unsprung weight at the axle and wheel. That in turn will take an effect on mpg and rpms.

Just go big or go home or stick with 33"s lol. Besides 37"s is the new 35"s haha.

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How about 40's? Here's my buddy who's just finishing his build up this weekend. Except I sure don't have 10-15k to do this, nor have I ever welded or fabricated a day of my life! LOL

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Jeffy not fair man, lol. The difference is the 5th gen verses a 4th gen. I barely get 15 mpg on tiny 33's.
There is another difference as well. Tire pressure, vehicle weight, load rating and manufacturer all come in to play with tire sizes. Most tires height are with out a load. Once mounted and installed the size will change due to rim width and size, vehicle weight and load ratings. Just some food for thought.
Either way it is more mass and unsprung weight at the axle and wheel. That in turn will take an effect on mpg and rpms.

Just go big or go home or stick with 33"s lol. Besides 37"s is the new 35"s haha.

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I've heard a few folks in Phoenix mention getting 17mpg stock or less in the 5th Gen and was shocked if MPG went down on the newer engine. Glad to hear that's not necessarily the case!

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My 5th gen never got close to what my 4th gen could achieve for mpg. That's not to say I don't like it, it just never really got as good of mileage. My 4th gen can still get 19 mpg on the highway with the 255/80/17 ST Maxx's and around 2.5" of lift. With 2.5" of lift and 285's my 5th gen struggles to get 15 mpg.

That being said, 35's are in the plans for at least my 4th gen along with a small body lift and lots of trimming. The Toyo MT 285/75/17 is just about as tall as some brands of 35/12.50's and Toyo's 285/75/18 is a true 35" tire, just a little narrower (I'd have to swap to 18's though) which may help me fit them.
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My 5th gen never got close to what my 4th gen could achieve for mpg. That's not to say I don't like it, it just never really got as good of mileage. My 4th gen can still get 19 mpg on the highway with the 255/80/17 ST Maxx's and around 2.5" of lift. With 2.5" of lift and 285's my 5th gen struggles to get 15 mpg.

That being said, 35's are in the plans for at least my 4th gen along with a small body lift and lots of trimming. The Toyo MT 285/75/17 is just about as tall as some brands of 35/12.50's and Toyo's 285/75/18 is a true 35" tire, just a little narrower (I'd have to swap to 18's though) which may help me fit them.
Guess it sounds like the 5th gen is a bit hit or miss on decent MPG.

My 4th gen turned out gets decent MPG still when you go about 65-70mph on a trip vs pushing it to 80-90 to get where you are going. LOL Figures huh?! If I had the money for it, I would get some more MPG friendly tires that still looked good and then have another set of MT's for off-roading only.

Also I wondered how the tall skinny tires would work with MPG. Good to hear it sounds like that does help.

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35s really depend on what you are trying to do. I went 35s since my 4Runner is used primarily for offroad trips, but I would have stuck with 32/33s if it was a DD.

The v6 with part time 4WD will help a lot when you go 35s, as the V8 drives all 4 tires all the time and 35s really impact gas mileage. However expect a big drop in MPG when going to 35s.

With sand and higher speed trails the smaller tire may be better, but rocks, etc the larger tire really helps a lot. With 35s always be prepared to have some rubbing on the trail (full flex, lock, etc).
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35s really depend on what you are trying to do. I went 35s since my 4Runner is used primarily for offroad trips, but I would have stuck with 32/33s if it was a DD.

The v6 with part time 4WD will help a lot when you go 35s, as the V8 drives all 4 tires all the time and 35s really impact gas mileage. However expect a big drop in MPG when going to 35s.

With sand and higher speed trails the smaller tire may be better, but rocks, etc the larger tire really helps a lot. With 35s always be prepared to have some rubbing on the trail (full flex, lock, etc).
For myself as I live in Arizona it's mostly Rocky landscape that I traverse mostly off-road. I don't think I've been on any sand with it yet, unless.... wait yeah it's been on a dry wash bed on a trail.

For my DD aspect I hardly ever get on the highway, it's usually taking my daughter to daycare as I work from home now, so I do less driving than I did a year ago. But low MPG still sucks. LOL However I'm thinking either 35's or skids plates are needed as I get braver for some of these trails. Or if I save enough both. Maybe just taking off the skids for when not 4x4ing for being a bit lighter.

I'm already rubbing in some aspects, I'll just need to get some improved bump stops and a bit more trimming.


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OP, I'm in the process of mouting 35's on no body lift and only 3" of lift, well more like 3.5" but I'm not afraid of the sawzall and welder:0

Where I'm at now it will drive with no rubbing, and I still have to add some metal to the steering stops but should do that Saturday evening and I'm getting the tires mounted and balanced Saturday.

I do plan to add a 1.25 or possibly 1.5" BL from Roger Brown, but if I can get it to go without rubbing, I would prefer to stick to no body lift. Time will tell but I'm a fan of low CG, currently have my front flares off and have cut the crap out of the front bumper, pinch weld was beat to a negative level, and cut to the bolt on the rear of the front fender, then beat the welds of the pinch down below the front bottom corner and around 3" back from the ccorner. I do anticipate rubbing but from where I'm at now, I am just leaving front flares off till the tires are mounted, and will go do flex test with a white paint pen to highlight everywhere I rub, then break out the tin snips and grinder I will 90% go with McNeil fiberglass front fenders as I will SAS mine, but that will be a bit down the road, so goal is 35's daily with the stock 3.73's with a regear to 4.56's possibly 4.88's as when I go SAS will go with a diamond front axle, coils, 3 link, and kings I don't anticipate ever going over 37's so my clearancing for 35's on IFS should work with the SAS and 37's as will naturally go higher! There is a possibility I'll go with Dana 60 and Sterling rear as they are cheaper and very plentiful down here I have seen matching 4.56's go for 1k here in florida, for that price I would be an idiot not to just jump to full width and extra strength, hence my no-regear for a while

1.5" body, 3" suspension, BFH, aggressive Bodymount chop, and cutting of the flares will be necessary for 35's ideally, but we will see how mine turns out, I will be modding my bumpstops as well just waiting on some metal to come in for the fab work
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So I've been thinking about this some more. There's a guy in my area with a newer Taco and he's got the 6" diff drop lift on his truck. I was wondering if skipping the body lift and doing one of these 6" lifts made for the FJ would work. Granted I would rather not have a diff drop vs a real 6" lift, but sure wouldn't work on these 4runners. LOL

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So I've been thinking about this some more. There's a guy in my area with a newer Taco and he's got the 6" diff drop lift on his truck. I was wondering if skipping the body lift and doing one of these 6" lifts made for the FJ would work. Granted I would rather not have a diff drop vs a real 6" lift, but sure wouldn't work on these 4runners. LOL

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Do it, but keep in mind that the diff drop is permanent due to having to cut the cross member. It would look cool.
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Do it, but keep in mind that the diff drop is permanent due to having to cut the cross member. It would look cool.
I haven't done much research into what it would take to do a diff drop lift, so this is good food for thought. Thank you!
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You can, there are a few running the 07-09 FJ 6" kit and 35's with no bodylift.
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