Went shopping today...

Roams001 · 09-19-2008, 08:12 PM

Obviously a few more things needed, and a few things are still up for decision, but

I've been PMing w/Sol over at the Blue Board on the gotchas, and of course any constructive input here is much appreciated.

Iron Pig Offroad will perform the work for me, build scheduled to start in early November. I'll try to persuade them to take pictures at the major milestones and of course I'll visit at regular intervals.

I'm going to have some things for sale in about 4-5 months. I'll put them in the For Sale Forum once I get things organized, but here's off the top of my head.

Budbuilt Skids (at least a couple of them, maybe all)
DR Coilovers and Rear Shocks
Deaver Springs
5 - 33" BFG AT Tires (16")
5 - 34" BFG AT Tires (16")
1 - 32" BFG AT Tire (17")
Wheels (5 - 16" Wheeler's Offroad and 5 - 16" Chambers)

...and some OEM garage sale items...

(third members with gears, halfshafts, control arms, spindles, steering components, etc..)

stock running boards
stock skids
rear taillights
front fogs
front turnsignals
V8 tow hitch
5 - GX470 wheels

My bank account is a little lighter this evening...

Canyon.4R · 09-19-2008, 09:32 PM

Congrats!

Give us all the updates you can! It's gonna be sweet!!

..I'm jealous..

bulldog · 09-19-2008, 10:27 PM

Very cool!!!!!!! Can't wait to see it evolve.

Will you retain any of the ABS sensors? What tires are you planning on running?

Looks like you will using FJ60 carriers and R&Ps, any reason for that?

97kurt · 09-19-2008, 11:05 PM

I wish you good luck, please keep us posted with pics. One questioin, why johnny joints? and what steering box are you going to run? Edit.. Saw you are running a 60 box (good choice).

Quote:

Originally Posted by bulldog

Very cool!!!!!!! Can't wait to see it evolve.

Will you retain any of the ABS sensors? What tires are you planning on running?

Looks like you will using FJ60 carriers and R&Ps, any reason for that?

9.5" toyota centers, cause people run 35 to 37's on them with out any issue.

my034runner · 09-19-2008, 11:22 PM

Holy sh*t!!!!

Dude, that list got me pretty excited!!!

I always hoped to do mine some year......but you beat everyone to it!!! The first SAS'd 4th gen!!!!

When did you actually decide to make the big move?? And did you just hit the lottery or something??!!

So, let the

Begin!!!!

Make sure to visit often, and get lots of pictures!!!!

Josh220 · 09-20-2008, 12:10 AM

How much would a project like that run?

Roams001 · 09-20-2008, 07:01 AM

I blame Toyota120 and Crozhawk for this.

Somewhere around a 36" tire, maybe 37, and Staun beadlocks.

IPOR will attempt to retain the ABS sensors by first trying some spare FJ80 (I think) knuckles and seeing if they can get the sensor rings to work. They have a direct link to a TRD guy who they've been bouncing ideas off of.

All-Pro said they are working on something, we'll see if that materializes and retrofit if it ever does. No luck with MetalTech at this point either.

Sol also said he has some ideas, so we'll see what the future brings. If nothing works, C'est la vie.

I had been saving my pennies for a D4D swap for a while - which costs about the same. Also, Dave and I began talking about a Spring trip back out West like last year...except longer...what we wanted to run and see. At that time, we also started talking about Cruisers and 6" Slee lifts, 37 inch tires, expedition runs, and we thought...well one of us should SAS and the other do LT or get a Cruiser. I've always wanted a solid axle and I have no room for an extra truck, so I volunteered.

Dave and I sat down and brainstormed a list. I contacted IPOR about a month ago and they started doing research. I went down yesterday and talked numbers and specifics. I gotta tell ya, they have some amazing Cruiser Projects in the works down there. 4-link suspensions, V8 swaps, buggys...I'll bring my camera and take pictures of their other work if they allow me.

The Johnny Joints, that is what IPOR have used/is using on their projects. We talked about them for a while and I am happy with the decision.

These are sitting in my living room right now. Never been used, just used for mockups...so that saved me 400 bucks...so I'm already ahead...uh yeah, that's the ticket.

I actually started to lose my mind a bit while we were looking over the truck...was like...crawl box, 4 link rear, fuel tank remove and redo in rear...but my budget would totally be destroyed by then. As it sits, I'm already over a bit, but I knew what I was getting myself in to.

They invited me to a Cruiser Run at Rausch Creek in a few weeks. I need to get the registration filled out this morning and sent out! So sit tight till late October/early November...more to come!

Crozhawk · 09-20-2008, 07:26 AM

Tim, you are my ambassador of "Kwan"!!

I've seen their work first hand as well and I'm happy you went with them. They are talented and experienced. I know we could have done it, but they've all ready come up against all the challenges we would have encountered ....and the whole "distance" thingy...

I'm happy for you, and "overtly" jealous. Our trip next spring will be one to remember for sure!

Mikestang · 09-20-2008, 12:48 PM

Very exciting, looking foward to watching it come together.

Joel · 09-20-2008, 01:20 PM

A W E S O M E.

Cruiserhead · 09-20-2008, 02:28 PM

finally!
I have been trying to talk Andries into sas forever. I also thought the 80 abs ring might work but you will need more sensors.

what are you using for control arms? Slee's 80 arms? or is it going to be a 3 link?

personally, i say go for rubber oem bushings and don't mess with jjoints.

Roams001 · 09-20-2008, 04:58 PM

3-Link. I'll give the FJ80 knuckle feedback to IPOR, thanks!

bulldog · 09-20-2008, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cruiserhead

finally!
I have been trying to talk Andries into sas forever. I also thought the 80 abs ring might work but you will need more sensors.

what are you using for control arms? Slee's 80 arms? or is it going to be a 3 link?

personally, i say go for rubber oem bushings and don't mess with jjoints.

I'm in no rush for SAS (yet). I am however very excited about this project. Can't wait to see how it turns out.

MAC4Runner · 09-22-2008, 08:37 AM

SWEET!

Roams001 · 10-05-2008, 03:26 PM

I Went to Raush Creek with the Bay to Blue Ridge Cruisers and Iron Pig for their Fall Crawl. Now that their event is done, my truck is one step closer to getting in their shop.

I had some minor carnage:

Dave...no need for the plasma cutter anymore for the low hanging exhaust. It sounds really good now! Thanks to a treestump on some whoop-dee-dos, it got tucked under my rear tire. A trail sawzall and voila...anybody want a Magnaflow without the tail pipe? I have to get a totally custom exhaust system anyway.

My pretty POR15 job...oh well, these are getting cut off and moved up higher anyway.

CBI did what is was designed for...

I told Cam last night that my alignment was now totally off and was that going to be a problem...

Crozhawk · 10-06-2008, 07:13 AM

sweet! .. a little headstart won't hurt!

BOVADS329 · 10-13-2008, 11:44 AM

im really curious to see this, how are you going to get around the all wheel drive, and the traction control part of this. ive thought about doing this, many times, but with emmisions i cant have any dash lights on.

Roams001 · 10-13-2008, 01:04 PM

Most likely I'm going to do without and pull the lights in the dash (Sol has also made some recommendations). IPOR is going to experiment a bit with FJ80 knuckles, but most likely going without for now...

That reminds me, I need to call them.

bulldog · 10-13-2008, 01:08 PM

Can't wait to see the progress on this.

BOVADS329 · 10-14-2008, 08:54 AM

I figured the only way around it was to put a tundra ecm and harness, for motor and put a tundra master cyl, and then put a atlas case in it. if you use the stock case i think the abs will trying to come on all the time if there is no input from the front. if you could find a way to put tone rings on front housing that would be sweet.

09-19-2008, 08:12 PM	#1
Roams001 No IFS Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NoVA Posts: 468	2004 4Runner SAS Obviously a few more things needed, and a few things are still up for decision, but I've been PMing w/Sol over at the Blue Board on the gotchas, and of course any constructive input here is much appreciated. Iron Pig Offroad will perform the work for me, build scheduled to start in early November. I'll try to persuade them to take pictures at the major milestones and of course I'll visit at regular intervals. I'm going to have some things for sale in about 4-5 months. I'll put them in the For Sale Forum once I get things organized, but here's off the top of my head. Budbuilt Skids (at least a couple of them, maybe all) DR Coilovers and Rear Shocks Deaver Springs 5 - 33" BFG AT Tires (16") 5 - 34" BFG AT Tires (16") 1 - 32" BFG AT Tire (17") Wheels (5 - 16" Wheeler's Offroad and 5 - 16" Chambers) ...and some OEM garage sale items... (third members with gears, halfshafts, control arms, spindles, steering components, etc..) stock running boards stock skids rear taillights front fogs front turnsignals V8 tow hitch 5 - GX470 wheels My bank account is a little lighter this evening... __________________ Silver 04 SR5 V8 4x4 - IPOR Sliders, Shrockworks Winch Bumper, CBI Rear Tire Carrier, AO Roofrack, Inchworm Twin Stick, Axle Winches, Ram Mount Center Console, Lokar Shifter with First Gear and Overdrive Lockout ...and...SAC DONE Last edited by Roams001; 03-05-2009 at 04:09 PM.

09-19-2008, 09:32 PM	#2
Canyon.4R Driver Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Amarillo, TX Posts: 185	Congrats! Give us all the updates you can! It's gonna be sweet!! ..I'm jealous.. __________________ 2006 Galactic Gray 4Runner Sport 4WD V8 _____ Kyle

09-19-2008, 10:27 PM	#3
bulldog Admin Join Date: May 2005 Location: Morgan Hill, CA Posts: 9,898	Very cool!!!!!!! Can't wait to see it evolve. Will you retain any of the ABS sensors? What tires are you planning on running? Looks like you will using FJ60 carriers and R&Ps, any reason for that? __________________ andries K9BDG 03 pavement princess 06 toaster

09-19-2008, 11:22 PM	#5
my034runner Toy120 Uber member!! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 4,981	Holy sht!!!! Dude, that list got me pretty excited!!! I always hoped to do mine some year......but you beat everyone to it!!! The first SAS'd 4th gen!!!! When did you actually decide to make the big move?? And did you just hit the lottery or something??!! So, let the Begin!!!! Make sure to visit often, and get lots of pictures!!!! __________________ NVTTORA Prez.*.My034runner: DR/ICON coil overs, Icon 2.5 resis in the rear, custom coil springs, AllPro sliders, BudBuilt skids, KurtFab Lower links, AllPro Upper links, WabFab endlinks, Blackout safari rack, FourTreks HiLift mounts, 285/75/16 BFG's Ko's, MagnaFlow exhaust, Optima Blue&Red top, ShrockWorks bumper, MileMarkerE9000 winch, Engel MT-60 fridge, Sirius, Garmin60 Csx, Factory nav etc...

09-20-2008, 12:10 AM	#6
Josh220 Old Timer Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,247	How much would a project like that run? __________________ 2007 Toyota 4Runner 4X4 V8 Sport Edition- Build Thread KING remote resi's front and rear\|Shrockworks bumper\|Gobi Stealth rack\|Lightforce 240's\|Warn M8000\|SpiderTrax\|Demello Rock Sliders\|BudBuilt skid\|285/70/17 GY Duratracs\|1.25" Camburg UCA's\|Magnaflow Exhaust\|Cobra 75 WX ST\|Wilson5000 Short Load\|Limo tint\|4300K HID\|Rear Differential Breather\|ARB fridge\|Dual Batteries\|1" BL

09-20-2008, 07:01 AM	#7
Roams001 No IFS Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NoVA Posts: 468	I blame Toyota120 and Crozhawk for this. Somewhere around a 36" tire, maybe 37, and Staun beadlocks. IPOR will attempt to retain the ABS sensors by first trying some spare FJ80 (I think) knuckles and seeing if they can get the sensor rings to work. They have a direct link to a TRD guy who they've been bouncing ideas off of. All-Pro said they are working on something, we'll see if that materializes and retrofit if it ever does. No luck with MetalTech at this point either. Sol also said he has some ideas, so we'll see what the future brings. If nothing works, C'est la vie. I had been saving my pennies for a D4D swap for a while - which costs about the same. Also, Dave and I began talking about a Spring trip back out West like last year...except longer...what we wanted to run and see. At that time, we also started talking about Cruisers and 6" Slee lifts, 37 inch tires, expedition runs, and we thought...well one of us should SAS and the other do LT or get a Cruiser. I've always wanted a solid axle and I have no room for an extra truck, so I volunteered. Dave and I sat down and brainstormed a list. I contacted IPOR about a month ago and they started doing research. I went down yesterday and talked numbers and specifics. I gotta tell ya, they have some amazing Cruiser Projects in the works down there. 4-link suspensions, V8 swaps, buggys...I'll bring my camera and take pictures of their other work if they allow me. The Johnny Joints, that is what IPOR have used/is using on their projects. We talked about them for a while and I am happy with the decision. These are sitting in my living room right now. Never been used, just used for mockups...so that saved me 400 bucks...so I'm already ahead...uh yeah, that's the ticket. I actually started to lose my mind a bit while we were looking over the truck...was like...crawl box, 4 link rear, fuel tank remove and redo in rear...but my budget would totally be destroyed by then. As it sits, I'm already over a bit, but I knew what I was getting myself in to. They invited me to a Cruiser Run at Rausch Creek in a few weeks. I need to get the registration filled out this morning and sent out! So sit tight till late October/early November...more to come! __________________ Silver 04 SR5 V8 4x4 - IPOR Sliders, Shrockworks Winch Bumper, CBI Rear Tire Carrier, AO Roofrack, Inchworm Twin Stick, Axle Winches, Ram Mount Center Console, Lokar Shifter with First Gear and Overdrive Lockout ...and...SAC DONE Last edited by Roams001; 09-20-2008 at 07:04 AM.

09-20-2008, 07:26 AM	#8
Crozhawk PRO ROCK 60s Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Savannah, Ga Posts: 1,421	Tim, you are my ambassador of "Kwan"!! I've seen their work first hand as well and I'm happy you went with them. They are talented and experienced. I know we could have done it, but they've all ready come up against all the challenges we would have encountered ....and the whole "distance" thingy... I'm happy for you, and "overtly" jealous. Our trip next spring will be one to remember for sure! __________________ Dave 2006 4Runner Limited V8 *SAC* Rear bumper Solid Axle Conversion

09-20-2008, 12:48 PM	#9
Mikestang Don't follow this guy Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, CA Posts: 2,553	Very exciting, looking foward to watching it come together. __________________ '07 Ltd 4Runner v8 4x4 - Midland 75-822 + Wilson 5000, Garmin 276c, Magnaflow catback, Kurtfab front diff brace, 265/70/17 Goodyear SA on Robby Gordon Signatures, Spidertrax, 3/4" BL, BajaRack, 2wd sway, Icon front, Overland Warehouse rear, Kurtfab v2.1 LCAs, MedicLinks, Slee SS lines, BB skids '04 SR5 4Runner v8 4x4 - Totaled 11/06/09 www.mikestang.com

09-20-2008, 01:20 PM	#10
Joel Admin Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: 39.5° N 119.86° W Posts: 1,809	A W E S O M E. __________________ Joel KE7RTX http://no-ip.com 2004 Limited 4WD V8 Mods.

09-20-2008, 02:28 PM	#11
Cruiserhead Super Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,451	finally! I have been trying to talk Andries into sas forever. I also thought the 80 abs ring might work but you will need more sensors. what are you using for control arms? Slee's 80 arms? or is it going to be a 3 link? personally, i say go for rubber oem bushings and don't mess with jjoints. __________________ just SAS it!

09-20-2008, 04:58 PM	#12
Roams001 No IFS Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NoVA Posts: 468	3-Link. I'll give the FJ80 knuckle feedback to IPOR, thanks! __________________ Silver 04 SR5 V8 4x4 - IPOR Sliders, Shrockworks Winch Bumper, CBI Rear Tire Carrier, AO Roofrack, Inchworm Twin Stick, Axle Winches, Ram Mount Center Console, Lokar Shifter with First Gear and Overdrive Lockout ...and...SAC DONE

09-22-2008, 08:37 AM	#14
MAC4Runner Driver Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 178	SWEET! __________________ 2004 T4R SR5 V8 Natural White SAW COs (F) OME 895 & N141 (R) / Light Racing UCA /255-75-17 GY Silent Armors / HQ Sliders / Kurtfab Diff Bracket / Scion Headunit - XM / Nuvi 760

10-05-2008, 03:26 PM	#15
Roams001 No IFS Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NoVA Posts: 468	I Went to Raush Creek with the Bay to Blue Ridge Cruisers and Iron Pig for their Fall Crawl. Now that their event is done, my truck is one step closer to getting in their shop. I had some minor carnage: Dave...no need for the plasma cutter anymore for the low hanging exhaust. It sounds really good now! Thanks to a treestump on some whoop-dee-dos, it got tucked under my rear tire. A trail sawzall and voila...anybody want a Magnaflow without the tail pipe? I have to get a totally custom exhaust system anyway. My pretty POR15 job...oh well, these are getting cut off and moved up higher anyway. CBI did what is was designed for... I told Cam last night that my alignment was now totally off and was that going to be a problem... __________________ Silver 04 SR5 V8 4x4 - IPOR Sliders, Shrockworks Winch Bumper, CBI Rear Tire Carrier, AO Roofrack, Inchworm Twin Stick, Axle Winches, Ram Mount Center Console, Lokar Shifter with First Gear and Overdrive Lockout ...and...SAC DONE Last edited by Roams001; 10-05-2008 at 03:30 PM.

10-06-2008, 07:13 AM	#16
Crozhawk PRO ROCK 60s Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Savannah, Ga Posts: 1,421	sweet! .. a little headstart won't hurt! __________________ Dave 2006 4Runner Limited V8 *SAC* Rear bumper Solid Axle Conversion

10-13-2008, 11:44 AM	#17
BOVADS329 Driver Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 146	im really curious to see this, how are you going to get around the all wheel drive, and the traction control part of this. ive thought about doing this, many times, but with emmisions i cant have any dash lights on. __________________ '03 RUNNER wifes DD '08 TUNDRA CREWMAX 4X4, tow rig '90 4RUNNER, LINKED, LOCKED, 1TON ON 4D's i beat my rigs like they owe me money

10-13-2008, 01:04 PM	#18
Roams001 No IFS Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NoVA Posts: 468	Most likely I'm going to do without and pull the lights in the dash (Sol has also made some recommendations). IPOR is going to experiment a bit with FJ80 knuckles, but most likely going without for now... That reminds me, I need to call them. __________________ Silver 04 SR5 V8 4x4 - IPOR Sliders, Shrockworks Winch Bumper, CBI Rear Tire Carrier, AO Roofrack, Inchworm Twin Stick, Axle Winches, Ram Mount Center Console, Lokar Shifter with First Gear and Overdrive Lockout ...and...SAC DONE

10-13-2008, 01:08 PM	#19
bulldog Admin Join Date: May 2005 Location: Morgan Hill, CA Posts: 9,898	Can't wait to see the progress on this. __________________ andries K9BDG 03 pavement princess 06 toaster

10-14-2008, 08:54 AM	#20
BOVADS329 Driver Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 146	I figured the only way around it was to put a tundra ecm and harness, for motor and put a tundra master cyl, and then put a atlas case in it. if you use the stock case i think the abs will trying to come on all the time if there is no input from the front. if you could find a way to put tone rings on front housing that would be sweet. __________________ '03 RUNNER wifes DD '08 TUNDRA CREWMAX 4X4, tow rig '90 4RUNNER, LINKED, LOCKED, 1TON ON 4D's i beat my rigs like they owe me money

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